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why no nuclear warheads

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why are't there any nuclear warheads in galciv2?i don't know if anybody had this idea before or not but you know it would be cool if you could have nuclear warheads in galciv2.you could have nukes instead of mass drivers.I mean that mass drivers are huge asteriods strapped to rockets to hit specific targets on the planet.but dosen't anybody know that if a asteroid hits a planet all life would be destroyed.It would be just stupidity to say that 3 planetary improvements were destroyed and the planet base class has dropped by 6.if an asteriod hit a planet there would be no accuracy if a 500 metre long asteroid hit usa today it would kill atleast 3 billion people what if it was propelled to go even faster with rockets strapped on?.an asteroid could reduce a class 26 planet to a class 1 or zero.plus nukes would be more accurate on what they would destroy.or you could destroy capital ships with nuclear warheads.if you think that would be annoying think of what the brits felt like when the U-boats were sinking their supplies and battleships.
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Erm, what do you think the missile weapons are? If a warhead with a black hole in it does 16 points of damage, then even 3 or 4 points would equal a multi-megatonne explosion.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Yeah and in space nuclear explosions seem less "exiting" than on eart cuz of the Zero g. In that regard, I agree that it would be cool to see better explosions in the game, current ones dont loook that powerful   


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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Not all life would be destroyed by every asteroid hit... a smallish one could concievably chunk up and result in several meteorite strikes more than "big world destroying asteroid."

And rockets wouldn't move it all that fast, just where it was supposed to go.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
if an asteriod hit a planet there would be no accuracy if a 500 metre long asteroid hit usa today it would kill atleast 3 billion people



Theres thousands of toms of meteorites that hit earth every year but get consumed on reentry, just imgagine they are not using 500 metere wide astareoids, maybe 50 meter or so, enough to destroy static targets, and military positions. Maybe on GalCiv3 we will get planetary Bombardment, but AFAIK the expansion wont have them, so I can live with mass drivers and just think Im nuking the hell out of them     


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Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
i heard enough roids burn up yearly to give the earth a milimeter of new dust.. Or something like that.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Maybe on GalCiv3 we will get planetary Bombardment


TC, multiplayer, but never bombardment. Frogboy hates the idea.

As said before, you think a nuke could outdamage a black hole? Not likely.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
A blackhole would swallow all the nukes on Earth...the Earth its self...then all the planets in the solar system plus any other matter hanging around...then after that snack would start the main course our sun.

After all that it would still be hungry...

What's a nuke to that?
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Luckyly, I still can still decidde if...



Maybe take em over the old fasioned way...




Maybe just bombard them to death...






Or bring out the big guns...






GalCiv 2 is good, but sometimes I need to have my planetary destroying fix. HMMMmm  


Monc34
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Ah MOO2...many happy hrs of gaming, still good even if its outdated graphically.

But the world moves on...now GC2 rules...
Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
TC, multiplayer, but never bombardment. Frogboy hates the idea.


Since when did you become the spokesperson for stardock? And your waaaay to certain, that there will be tactical combat and muiltiplayer.  
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Since when did you become the spokesperson for stardock?


Since when was it your bloody business? Because I've been here longer than you and read pretty much every post Frogboy has made on it. Bombardment won't happen.

TC probably will, due to the way it's actually winning the polls. That means it's going to be profitable. Multiplayer might happen, if it looks profitable. Again: reading posts properly equals good. You trying to be clever and failing is not good.
Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top
in space nuclear explosions seem less "exiting"


In space you don't have a major component of the damage triad - blast (nothing to carry it along - like air   ). All you get is the heat and radiation effects.
Reply #13 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
black holes may be destructive but since they suck up everything within a 2 light year radius (any black hole smaller then that cannot be regarded as a black hole because then it would be to weak to suck up its own light and not be black hole or invisible an thus not be tear up things into billions of pieces and would instead transport thing somewhere else due to its immense gravity and be not a black hole but a WORM HOLE,any idiot would know that)would'nt it suck up the ship that fired it also?.the galciv2 black hole thing may be popular but its completely wrong.theres no way you could get enough matter into a missle sized container.Don't believe me? try it yourself all you need is a huge missile and supergiant star that is trillions upon trillions upun crillions and bigillions of times bigger then then missile's container and a compresser and even if you do somehow manage to do it(however impossible as it may seem)you can't cancel the gravity of a star so much as to put it inside the missile but if the missile is built with super strong materials and can keep itself from being compressed into a size infinitizimally small what about the ship thats carrying it?and where does all that heat go?

no desrespect, but whoever came up with the blackhole idea is an idiot!
Reply #15 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Yeah, and it's impossible to travel faster than light! The game should make it take years to get from one place to another! And population grows far too fast! And how on earth do you fit 500 million people on one spacecraft! That's just silly! And how do you communicate instantly? There should be a delay between orders and action!

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I don't think I've ever come across any piece of Sci-Fi without glaring 'errors'. You have to make compromises with reality in order to make it entertaining.

EDIT: Besides which, your science is off anyway- Firstly, if a star isn't big enough to form a black hole it will not form a wormhole, it'd just be a dead star. Secondly, the size of the event horizon is a lot less than two light years. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but 2 light years is FAR too big.
Reply #16 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Actually, you can have black holes smaller than you can see. According to the latest theory, there should be infinite numbers of them poping in and out of existence at this very moment.
Reply #17 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
no desrespect, but whoever came up with the blackhole idea is an idiot!


Besides your physics not being accurate and besides a little of that being accounted for by the in-game descriptions, I would point out that all of that is pretty much exactly the reason black holes are the strongest and most advanced weapons in the game, by far. It's one of those "Hey, what's the most abhorrently powerful weapon we can come up with that makes some degree of sense? Oh, I know, it's a black hole!" things.
Reply #18 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
to no118:my science is correct!
some black holes are not black holes at all there are still formed by the same thing :collapsed stars.the black hole is the size of an amoeba or the size of earth or sometimes when the star is so big that it cannot be compressed any farther then the black hole can be the size of the sun.some black holes just expand and form a tunnel thingy or worm hole.thats the theory.and i didn't ask anyone to change anything in the game i just wrote it to inform people who think that these things are true.just a little info for the masses.and i know other things too.like one of the most embarrassing secrets in USA's history.heres a clue it's related to something that happened between 3 or 4 wars in history and no the napoleanic wars was not involved.after all i happen to be an expert historian and astrophysicist.
i am an american too.and most people wouldn't believe it because of their national pride and if you think its not true i am not forcing you to believe it.just saying.
why am i not saying it?

because maybe some of you remember a newspaper clipping from 2004 about a kidnapping and murder of an 84-year old brit soldier
because of something he was going to put in the newspaper
Reply #19 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
"Secondly, the size of the event horizon is a lot less than two light years. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but 2 light years is FAR too big."


what do you mean far too big what do you think keeps billions of stars in orbit in galaxies.black holes the size of pinpricks can hold an entire galaxy in orbit.black holes have an effect radius of more than a hundred thousand light years!
SO THERE!
Reply #20 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Amazing... American expert historians and astrophysicists write like they're 12 years old! Who knew?
Reply #21 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If night hawk was really an "expert" historian and astrophysicist he would know of a little thing called the Schwarzschild Radius.

Any object smaller then it's own Schwarzchild Radius is a black hole.

The Sun's Schwarzchild radius is about 3 km and the Earth's is about 9 mm

So anything in the universe can become a black hole, it just has to be small enough (smaller than it's Schwarzchild Radius)

A smaller black hole will also have less of a gravitational effect (because of it's small mass). Mass is the important part of a black hole. If the sun where to turn into a black hole right now, not much would change (other than maybe mercury since it is so close). In classical mechanics the mass of a spherical body can be represented as a point mass (that's why I mentions mercury, because it is so close to the sun that may not be valid). The total mass of the sun would remain the same and all the planets would just go merrily on orbiting.

An expert in Astrophysics would know this.

btw I have a degree in physics and mathematics and have taken a multitude of upper division astrophysics classes
Reply #22 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oh my GOD! ... a bunch of armchair physicists, arguing about aspects of a game which are loosly based on fact and science theory...BRILLIANT!
Reply #23 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I think is funny and kind of ammusing LoL:P


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Reply #24 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
okey mister,flayed one
firstly, i'd like to tell mister fuzziebunnies that I found his reply conceaving me for a twelve year old is completely proposterous.
secondly,to flayed one i never said i was a real expert astrophysicist as in officially, I was best in my astrophysics class as in i got good grades like A's and B's.but i am an expert historian.i have a university degree in history.and thank you mister flayed one for correcting me.and i admit my mistake.wormholes really are promising.its the fact that some people are saying that they can lead to an alternate universe instead just leading to another place.since(ask anyone)most people believe that the universe is a singularity(for those of you who do not know what singularity is:i will give you an quick example cuz i don't have much time and i am late for something important.most of us may imagine the universe as a dot in a really big black place.the truth is there is no black place for it to be the only space there is is the space the universe creates as it expands.so there is no big black space to compare it to because it is the only thing there is!its confusing i know.)and there might not be another universe.galciv2 uses the most believed wormhole theory.i.e.one wormhole leads to another place in the galaxy.and plus the topic has led way too far offtrack.whatever you may think blackholes afired as torpedoes (or something like that)seems stupid.
I know.I know.

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but really the most logical ultimate weapon would anti.matter.since whatever you defend your ships with is made of matter (dosn't matter how advanced)anti-matter can destroy it or wipe it out of existence.only anti-matter can destroy matter(and vice verca).matter can take different forms,separate or whatever but can never be destroyed(with the exception of anti-matter).gotta go now