Still no miniturization fix! WTF?

There's a problem with miniturisation? And if you don't like the wonders, mod them.

what problem?

Wait... I build galactic wonders, at least the ones that seem to help me out (that armor one comes to mind). Is there some reason why i would not want to?

You will find that game tweaks that you may want may not be the oens other people care about.

I suspect you will, unfortunately, continue to be disappointed as long as you consider your pet peeves with the game to be actual bugs that need to be fixed.

If you think a particular Galactic Wonder is "stupid" then don't build it. But that doesn't make it a bug.  Miniaturization works as designed so I'm not sure what the issue there is.

i agree and wonders are great maybe you just dont know how to use them

i agree and wonders are great maybe you just dont know how to use them

A few of them really make very little sense, like the Galactic Guide Book.

Back to miniturization - the tone of the original poster leaves much to be desired, but . . . The fact is, improving your miniturization can result in LOSING space on a ship. I thought this was wiidely known, an admited problem with rounding, and I did expect it fixed sometime. Is the current claim "works as designed"? I don't like that answer, but as long as Stardock knows the issue is real (things that used to fit no longer do when you improve your miniturization), I can live with it.

Yeah most gal wonders suck donkey balls, and no Stardock i'm not going to mod my game I have no idea how it's done (frankly I think my game must have had something wrong with the game, when I open the Data english file it's empty) and we shouldn't have to mod the game. Why don't you guys put it in the game instead in a bunch of files?? That's why PC's piss me off, nothing works with them.

IT'S NOTEPAD DAMNIT.

Honestly, where are people getting the idea that modding is hard? Also: drivename\program files\stardock\totalgaming\galciv2\data\english. That file can't be empty, as that is the actual data the game uses. That data is ingame, and won't be changed. When you say "why don't you put it ingame" you show the fact you have no idea what you're talking about. The data has to be collected from somewhere, and it's there.

And most wonders work, and work well.

I see that (and this is quite common) there are 3 types of poster on a forum like this. The flamers (and you might considered me as one), the normal analytical people and the fanboys who refuse to see anything wrong with the game.
The people who are serious about their gaming  know very good what I was referring to. So does Stardock.

Currently everyone tells me to "just not research the last miniturization techs" cause as someone already said it- you'll end up having less space. This is wrong and needs to be adressed, dammit!!!

About the wonders. Most of them are ok. But how hard can it be to fix the Galactic Guide Book (which is utterly useless) or the Secret Police HQ which doesnt work (or works worse that building a 10 times cheaper VR center)? This also needs to be adressed- dammit (again)!!!

And about telling me to mod it (some wiseguy said that modding isnt hard). Tell me something. What would you say if you bought a car that runs only 10 mph, and the dealer said "well, it runs, doesn't it? If you want it to run faster, mod it. How hard can that be?!"

WTF once more...

Miniaturization works as designed so I'm not sure what the issue there is.

I cannot believe this comes from Stardock. So tell me; is it normal that after researching a miniturization tech you end up with less space on your ships? A simple yes or no will suffice...

I cannot believe this comes from Stardock. So tell me; is it normal that after researching a miniturization tech you end up with less space on your ships? A simple yes or no will suffice...

If you bothered reading the threads that you bumped, then you would have learned it DOES work as intended, just there are problems with rounding. You know, providing *correct* information helps more than whining.

And about telling me to mod it (some wiseguy said that modding isnt hard). Tell me something. What would you say if you bought a car that runs only 10 mph, and the dealer said "well, it runs, doesn't it? If you want it to run faster, mod it. How hard can that be?!"

Wiseguy? It's actually not hard. You might be lacking a brain, but it isn't. The wonders are WAI, last time I checked.

The people who are serious about their gaming know very good what I was referring to. So does Stardock.

I consider myself a serious gamer, which is why I like stardock. You're a pisspoor troll. If you REALLY want to get dev notice, go to the IRC, and explain the problem. No-one here is a mindreader

The Secret Police HQ gives the planet it's built on a 20% boost in morale. This means that if you build it on a planet with 43% morale, it will provide you a boost that equals 20% of that. That works out to a net gain of about 8 percentage points, so your morale will go up to about 51% after building the Secret Police HQ.

On a side note, how happy do you suppose such a facility should make denizens of the affected society? Personally, I find the idea of secret police to be a repugnant reminder of oligarchy and those who would do anything to remain in absolute power. Not exactly a morale booster.

Wiseguy? It's actually not hard. You might be lacking a brain, but it isn't. The wonders are WAI, last time I checked.

did you even read what he wrote?

I consider myself a serious gamer, which is why I like stardock. You're a pisspoor troll. If you REALLY want to get dev notice, go to the IRC, and explain the problem. No-one here is a mindreader

get manners, kiddie

get manners, kiddie

Don't call me a kiddie, you ignorant little prick.

Yes, I read what he wrote. And the wonders are WORKING AS INTENDED (full length for hard of thinking). The wonders are of use, except for the guide book, working and useful. So to his anology, the car is running, but it ISN'T going at formula 1 standard. So he's complaining that he has to tweak it to make it run to his standards.

Maxi-Pad, are you making friends again? Really, for someone that knows a computer inside and out, you certainly are lacking in the social graces.

Marcathonas:
Maybe your are a big kiddie, cause you insult everyone you come across.

About the wonders. Most of them are ok. But how hard can it be to fix the Galactic Guide Book (which is utterly useless) or the Secret Police HQ which doesnt work (or works worse that building a 10 times cheaper VR center)? This also needs to be adressed- dammit (again)!!!

And it isnt only the guide book and the secret police hq.
look at evils special wonder. it got a wrong description and gives +100% to your whole economy. dont tell me this is NORMAL.
And known since ages.

Marcathonas: Maybe your are a big kiddie, cause you insult everyone you come across.

I insult people who I don't like, or don't deserve any other forms of speech. When people act with intelligence, then I don't insult them, got it?

look at evils special wonder. it got a wrong description and gives +100% to your whole economy

This gives a massively powerful boost to the economy, and you're complaining?

Fine, that's only 3. The economy boost is like that since the game doesn't know what it's supposed to be boosting, so that would require hard-coding tweaks, as do the rest. I wasn't aware what was actually BROKEN with the guide book, as opposed to it being normally researched late.

Do you know what, exactly, the developers know? Posting on the forums means absolutely nothing. The only way to make sure the developers find out is by telling them yourself on irc.stardock.com #galciv

I look forward to your trip to IRC, to present your problems.

I agree with Frogboy. However, to the user who suggested modding, many people only care baout playing in the Metaverse, where modding is not allowed.

Tut-tut Maxi-Pad. There's that insulting tone again. Won't you ever learn?

I insult people who I don't like, or don't deserve any other forms of speech. When people act with intelligence, then I don't insult them, got it?

No you just insult everyone that didnt got the same opinion as you. Cause you think you are a genius, everyone who does not agree with you is dumb to you.

But i got some news for you:
YOU are NOT more intelligent then anyone other in these forums.

Guide book: maybe not broken, but cause noone researches sensor techs (for a reason) that early to get any use from it. And even someone did, why bothering spending a tile and time on a possibly valueable planet to make your colony ships(you wont have any other ships beside your flagship, colonyship and possibly some scout ships you can already euqip with certain components) being able to discover anomalies?

And i really wonder if there is a single developer that does not know of it. it has been discussed since months again and again. I wont go in an irc channel which is possible full of flamers to report issues already known by everyone.

But i got some news for you: YOU are NOT more intelligent then anyone other in these forums.

Actually that's quite wrong, but go ahead.

No you just insult everyone that didnt got the same opinion as you. Cause you think you are a genius, everyone who does not agree with you is dumb to you.

You failed already? No. People who argue about stupid things, or just troll (see joelD) are idiots, in my opinion. So I don't have any respect for them.

Guide book: maybe not broken, but cause noone researches sensor techs (for a reason) that early to get any use from it. And even someone did, why bothering spending a tile and time on a possibly valueable planet to make your colony ships(you wont have any other ships beside your flagship, colonyship and possibly some scout ships you can already euqip with certain components) being able to discover anomalies?

I completely agree with you, guide book is rather a waste of time. However, even if it is not very useful, it's not exactly broken, in the way that it totally fails to work. I can accept the point that the Mind Control center is broken, but that's not an easy fix, since it's not being recognised in the XML properly.

And i really wonder if there is a single developer that does not know of it. it has been discussed since months again and again. I wont go in an irc channel which is full of little kids to report issues already known by everyone.

For the last time, don't call someone who outsmarts you a little kid. You'll lose. Also, the developers may not know, since they don't have time to read every last forum post. IRC is the way to get things done. Besides, if you DO believe I'm out of line, feel free to drop in to IRC and tell a forum moderator. They have the full power and right to ban my account, if you make enough valid points as to why I should be kicked.

Still full of yourself, ay, Mr. Pad? Keep on insulting; it's what you do best.

Still full of yourself, ay, Mr. Pad? Keep on insulting; it's what you do best.

Isn't it though!

Maxi: I believe I've read in other posts that you are 15 and live in the UK. Care to confirm this for me?