Ugly Cow I'm confused---why the attack? Since you have written such a large critique you obviously have a grasp of the english language so I'll help u out.


Stark Trek Beta LITE for DA



If u need the definition for the above word please let me know.

Here I'll save you the trouble:
BETA TESTING DEFINITION: … In software development, a beta test is the second phase of software testing in which a sampling of the intended audience tries the product out. (Beta is the second letter of the Greek alphabet.) Originally, the term alpha test meant the first phase of testing in a software development process. The first phase includes unit testing, component testing, and system testing. Beta testing can be considered "pre-release testing." Beta test versions of software are now distributed to a wide audience on the Web partly to give the program a "real-world" test and partly to provide a preview of the next release.

Welcome to the Star Trek Mod for Galactic Civilization!


KEEP ALL YOUR DRIVERS UPDATED TO THE MOST CURRENT.
KEEP DARK AVATAR ALWAYS UPTO THE MOST RECENT UPDATE. USE STARDOCK TO DO THIS.

INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS:
- Install the files into:
C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Mods - if you don't ahve the "Mods" folder create it yourself and install it into that.


-DO NOT INSTALL IT INTO:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar - DO NOT INSTALL HERE.

DELETE ALL FILES PERTAINING TO STARTREK IN THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships

START A NEW GAME - THIS IS SOOOO IMPORTANT I CAN'T STRESS IT ENOUGH.

These steps are all needed to make sure it works as expected. It is needed to delete the files I'm speaking about above because if you don't, the game is looking into the mods folder for one file and having a contradictory file in the My Games folder.



If problems continue - Please use this forum to email me.

Anyone reading this post please give your honest opinion----should we have waited on releasing a final version which probably would have taken another 6 mnths to release---playtesting---looking for bugs etc. or release a beta version which everyone could enjoy and help look for bugs etc.---please give your opinion on this---and remember we did announce this as a beta.
Also please remember we are not a running windows vista---Ren and Han are running xp and I'm running vista---and believe me when I say all has not been happy land with the newest version of windows----drivers are still being updated!

Well Knight - All vista owners with half a wing nut in their head should know that any new version of a program as complicated as windows takes a while to work out bugs, and Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation.

SEE THIS POST FROM KRYO:

(Avatar)kryoMarch 26, 2007 20:56:22Reply #1
In DA, hit the change directory button below the enable mods toggle, then click the default button at the bottom of the change directory popup. That should kick DA into making its own mods folder and looking there, so you can put your mods in it.

KYRO's POST LINK

Although I have had my problems with this mod, I'm happy that you guys are continuing to work on it. I do not share the opinions of Uglycow above, who obviously has some other issues to deal with.

I do think, however, that some of your previous instructions have been unclear, especially regarding where to install the mod. The post above by Renfl is much clearer, thanks.

I will try to install the mod again and see what happens. Is there anything specific you would like me to look for while doing this? In order to help you test for problems, I mean.

Hmm, well I saved the files exactly where you said to:

C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Mods

When I went into Options from the main DA screen it did not seem to recognize that a Star Trek mod was installed; I do not have the option of pointing it to the directory above. The only options I have available are "Default" and "Example" (which is for testing Beta1.2)

Any ideas?

Wait... are there twelve major races now? Why the Vulcans and Andorians?

Hey guys, please don't listen to the views of one malcontent.
I has some major problems with the mod, in that it would crash when i started a new game, but being the fool that i am, i didn't upgrade to 1.6 DA, as soon as I did that, she loads up great. The only issue I've had is that the Gorn seem to always have the Maquis tech tree.

Not that big an issue because my first main game of the mod has been with the Terran Empire. Now i'm just looking forward to these 'ship packs' i've been hearing about.

I'm already hoping that we get to see perhaps some of the ISC and perhaps the awsome Sheliak fleet that was made for SFC one of these days

Still, it's great work guys and I look forward to upgraded releases from you.

Ghost Wes - I'd agree we didn't do the best job in clearly putting out the instructions....


Please see the message I pasted that Kryo had on another post.

What you need to do is first click to "Use Mods" then click the "Change" button - then select "default" exit out of Dark Avatar, and go back in, it should now register and be looking in the Dark Avatar Mods folder - it through me off at first too especially because I created my mods folder on my own.

Once again, to Uglycow and to others: This is a beta release of an unofficial mod that is being produced for free by a handful of dedicated fans. Please be patient, and please don't speak from some sort of ridiculous sense of entitlement. If you hate this mod so much, by all means, go out and make your own. Otherwise, either play this or don't. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use this mod.

Hey guys.

First of all, fantastic mod. I especially love the movies you guys implemented to give the galactic campaign'ish feel. Hours of gameplay worth spent .

Anyway, like other users have posted i have been having issues with the game crashing just before entering combat with Species 8472, Borg and the Dominion, with me playing as Federation.

Now, this also happened when i went about capping planets, in that regard i found a way around the game crashing by having defiants and transports in fleets to successfully capture them from the said opponents (see above) i've faced off with so far.

As far as i can tell in ship to ship combat, i cant engage resource mining facilities, single ships (eg: transports, freighters, single combat vessels.) and or starbases without a good chance of the game crashing. I have been trying to ascertain which ships in my fleet groups in particular i can get away with and so far the Defiant and Akira class ships seem to be the only ones i can go around attacking single ships and planets with.

The Excelsior, Galaxy and Voyager classes (only class of ships i have built so far) i can successfully attack in fleet to fleet combat with said opponents *occasionally* without crashing.


As far as my download location is, i've installed the mod to the Galciv 2/DA/Mods folder as instructed, however i'm not using the BETA Lite version but the heavier 1 gig version + ship styles fix that was released last week. I was wondering if it may be just the version i'm using thats doing this, in which case i apologize for wasting your time or if its just something on my end or perhaps just an error that you guys have probably worked out already?

One of the reasons why i had not changed to the Lite version was the fear of losing a 16 hour game But if it is the issue then i'm willing to bite the bullet..

Anyways, thanks for the mod!

Hey Renfl,

To use this Version of ST Mod do I have to have 1.6 DA?

Oh and uglycow I'm a programmer so let me tell u some things.....

1. Vista has Probs with older games so it could be vista too.
2.Yes there is constructive crictism its called report the bug and if possible let the developers see if they can fix it.
3.XP recognizes up to $Gigs of ram and dual processers arent really good compared 2 my 3.0 ghz Intel Extreme Quad Core.
4.Don't like it Don't play it. Simple
5.Everybody hates u.

Have a nice day Mr. Hate Developers for having a couple of bugs.

EVERYONE PLEASE READ:

YOU MUST BE USING THE LITE VERSION. Here is a quote from my original post on that version:

"This version on top of having the movies compressed and ship graphics down, will also have a new ShipStyle fix that should stop certain ships from crashing the game when they attack or are attacked."

It is post #502, towards the bottom.

I have been trying to figure out why people's games keep crashing when the new release was suppose to fix that, if you haven't switched over to lite, deleted all the appropriate files (see posts above on how to do this), and then started a new game, please do so and let me know if its still crashing. The reason the patches for memory saving options like the ship thumbnails, and the Full Graphics patch have not been released is because I have been trying to chase this bug down, since some people are playing the game fine with out it crashing, and others are having it crash, I believe this is the reason. Please use the newest release from us everytime. We lowered the original download for all the people that had problems with it being over a gig, we will release the patches to get back to full graphics mod, and to enhance the mod, but we've been trying to make everyone have a playable game first.

So please, download StarTrekBetaLite, delete all the files from MyGames\GC2Dark Avatar that pertain to StarTrek, including race files, ship styles, ship types, etc....install StarTrekBetaLite, and start a NEW game. If it still crashes at this point please let me know

Also, Han891 has found that for some reason when he plays and has the "Watch Opponents Ships in Battles" option turned on the game crashes, we as modders have no way to affect this so I think its a DarkAvatar bug, but its still under investigation, either way please turn it off, I never play with it on because in a large galaxy you can spend quite a while watching ship battles between turns.

Picard55, I believe it works, I think Han891 has played the game with it, I haven't had the time, been tracking down this ship crashing bug which I now believe to be from not using StarTrekBetaLite, because the ship files I fixed were the Transport ships and ships like that various freighters, combat tranports, constructors, defenders, some battleships, and I definately made the ship fixes to the Doms, Borg, Species races and a few others.

Soulvett, I thank you profusely, your feedback was very valuable.

Haha, I like it when people act like they're awesome but look foolish. I love this mod, I can run it fine on my rig, which outclasses someone else's that politely listed their "specs" here..... and on my laptop with vista. Obviously performance isn't as good on the laptop, but it still runs great. Wonderful job guys. Keep up the work.

And for the record, I also have a freakin huge hard drive.   , actually I have two. That doesn't count the laptop, which is only a medium sized hard drive. But it gets the job done just fine. 

If someone needs help understanding constructive criticism, and, even though it is rare, it does exist. I'd be happy to help, if they shot my a PM.

and for those who get the reference.... "Have some spaghetti, you're very rude."

Sorry, I just had to say something and I tried to keep it civil. Great mod Ren everyone else that has helped you (sorry to everyone else who has helped you who I don't know). Now to go back to playing games on my only day off from college and work..... Make it so.

Hey I want the orig title vid. Is there a way I can get JUST that file and use it on Lite version Renfl?

Question...are you still able to download individual ships on your site? Ive looked around but cant seem to find them. Good job by the way!

Oh and Renfl my game DOES NOT crash with 1.6 DA but it did when I had 1.5. So the bug COULD be related to 1.5.

Picard55 - If you move the entire previous mod out (or still have the zipped files), and then put in the lite version - you can move over which ever videos you want - the video names all stay the same so you can replace the ones you want with the ones that aren't compressed and have a better look - the intro is GC2DA_Intro

Unfortunately I no longer have the old mod. So am I stuck with the compressed ones?

Until I put out the patch - should of been out by now but was trying to figure out why people's games were crashing

Did you change weapon textures and thier sound?

Whens your Full Quality patch coming out?

Yes we did, at least from Version 3, some people got their hands on Version 4 for DL, and that version had the same retextured weapons and sfx