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07/04/09 - Star Trek for TA - IS AVAILABLE ON THE NEW FORUM

07/04/09 - Star Trek for TA - IS AVAILABLE ON THE NEW FORUM

http://han891.freeforums.org/

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Hello,

Anyone looking for NEW information on this mod, please see this forum.

07/04/2009

http://han891.freeforums.org




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Reply #577 Top
Been playing this mod for 10 days now around 4-8 hrs a day actual playtime and I'm quite impressed by the ships, design and depth taken by the modders in creating it. I personally would rate this mod from a scale of (1 to 10) as a solid 9.3ish    But when you have issues of enemy ships attacking your starbases (resulting in a crash), certain ships attacking a lone freighter or transport (resulting in a crash), and the annoying 50% chance of the game crashing in fleet vs. fleet encounters. Leads me to regrettably drop my rating from 9.3 to a 5.0.

I know I know this is a BETA version mod, but boy I wish at least one of the three issues listed above could have been focused on before releasing V4. If any of the original modders are reading this post please please please before adding new designs, techs & miscellaneous eye candy - solve the “crashing” which is making this mod almost unplayable.    

- Respectfully sent
Reply #578 Top
We hear you NavyBert and we're working on it. Unfortunately we're down to two active modders at the moment but we have been working hard on a stable build. WWW Link

If you have any questions please stop by our forum.   

Reply #579 Top
We hear you NavyBert and we're working on it. Unfortunately we're down to two active modders at the moment but we have been working hard on a stable build. WWW Link

If you have any questions please stop by our forum.   



/praise

Thanks for the quick reply Han891 I hope another modder equal in skills like you & Knightblade comes along quickly so we can all enjoy this awesome mod to the fullest. But now after hearing from you I feel comfortable knowing your doing you best at this moment to make it stable.   

I've been wanting to post in the other forum for days now but still awaiting one of the admin guys (praying your one of them hehe) would give me access. My registered name over there is also "Navybert".

- Sincerely
Reply #580 Top
NavyBert you are now active to post on the ST forum.   
Reply #581 Top
NavyBert you are now active to post on the ST forum.


Thanks Han

Everyday while playing this mod I've been picking up some basic modding skills hehe. An earlier post I made was my problem reading the UI panel for the Borg & Dominion because of it being soooo dark. And well since you gave us the warning not to click the "Appearance" tab because the hulls would go haywire. I manually went into the RaceConfig file and edited the "InterfaceColor" for both of those races. Even went so far as removing the "The" from the Dominion Alliance since I hated seeing 2 "The's" in the Quarterly Reports when referring to the Dominion. LOL I know it's a small step in modding compared to what you, Renfl & Knightblade been doing for a year now. But I gave myself a pat on the back in at least now enjoying the playtime and reading the UI panels as the Borg & Dominion.

I'm been actively trying to understand more from the debug.err file to get a divine intervention in finding out where the crashes been coming from.

Like a game I'm playing now as the Federation on a HUGE map with 8 other races. For like 4 hours straight battling other fleets, invasions, destroying trade ships, getting almost all of the other races to give me one of their ships in a trade, and then using it back on them hehe (NOT ONE CRASH SO FAR).

But when I got a Breen Battleship from a trade and was intending to use it to destroy 1 of the 2 nearest Species 8472 asteroid fields the game (CRASHED) Of course I couldn't believe it finally decided to crash on such a minor encounter compared to the other 4hrs of stuff I did. I then proceeded to reload my Autosave since I manually set it to save every turn, and used that same Breen Battleship to not attack the asteroid that crashed me, but to instead attack the one right next to it. And guess what the Breen ship fired and the game continued normally.

That weird yet small incident last night is what also motivates me like you and Knightblade to find out what the hell is going on hehe. I can only hope that divine intervention hits one of you guys soon or at least the countless others including myself who loves this mod and is actively taking steps to find the bug.

- Sincerely

P.S. That was the best 4 hours straight of Federation butt-kicking I ever experienced until the crash.   
Reply #582 Top
I start with no basic ship types, so when I go to build a colonizer in the shipyard, pick the colony hull then click use, game crashes. I can't seem to build any ships without crashing. Just clicking new takes me to the standard gal civ hulls. Anyone give me advice? I tried posting on their forums, but you need to be manually approved for forum access but nobody seems to be around to do it.
Reply #583 Top
I start with no basic ship types, so when I go to build a colonizer in the shipyard, pick the colony hull then click use, game crashes. I can't seem to build any ships without crashing. Just clicking new takes me to the standard gal civ hulls. Anyone give me advice? I tried posting on their forums, but you need to be manually approved for forum access but nobody seems to be around to do it.


Starting off with no basic ship types is normal, took another person from this forum to advise me of that.   If you’re seeing generic galciv2 hulls when clicking "New" in the shipyard while actively playing the ST mod means you might need a re-install or worst case scenario a re-download. Make sure the pathname when installing the mod is C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Mods.

Got three questions for you though...

(1) Are you having this problem with all the races in the mod?
(2) Did you ever accidentally click the "APPEARANCE" tab when customizing your race?
(3) When entering the shipyard, and then clicking the "Templates" tab at the top, then clicking the "ALL" tab do you see your race specific ships and their respective names listed?
Reply #584 Top
1) yes
2) nope. Read about that crash, so avoided it
3) Yes, in Templates I see all the hulls. If I just click New instead I don't

Ah well, thanks for help.
Reply #585 Top
Hi I just wanted to send a thank you to the mod creaters.

The amount of detail is amazing. I love the music and the detail in the ships and races. Amazing atmosphere and it truly feels like a sequel to BOTF.

Unfortunately after I start fleet battles with enemy ships the game usually crashes. I hope you continue working on this amazing mod.

Reply #587 Top
Any new info? I know the guys are, from what they've said, completely reoverhauling the entire mod. Thats a pretty big undertaking.

Do we have an idea when the refit will be finished? My hats off to you guys that quite an accomplishment to achieve. Best of luck can't hardely wait till it is released.
Reply #588 Top
I was wondering if this mod was still being worked on? I _REALLY_ want to play it, but the game keeps crashing on me with this mod installed.

I tried to register and post over at the official site (WWW Link) but you can't post unless you have an active account, and I've been waiting for ages but none of the administrators on that site have activated it.

Reply #589 Top
I was wondering if this mod was still being worked on? I _REALLY_ want to play it, but the game keeps crashing on me with this mod installed.


Yes, the mod is still be worked on...before there use to be 3 modders working on it but now it's temporarily down to 2 (Han891 & Knightblade). If you follow the WWW Link I posted earlier it would lead you to a poll Han891 is taking in reference to the future course of the mod.

In reference to your crashing, you can go to your Interface options and set all your battles to be "INSTANT BATTLES". That works for me until the stable mod gets released. It's sad their is no animation sequences and sound when set to "INSTANT" but at least you will not crash. This recommendation works for me I don't know if it will work for you and others. Good Luck!!!    
Reply #590 Top
PlaidAvenger, you are now active for the Star Trek Forum.

Sorry about that we have been lazy in our forum duties.   
Reply #591 Top
Sorry about that we have been lazy in our forum duties.


that cannot be good you do have fans think of that.  
Reply #592 Top
Well, when we spend all of our spare time working on the mod. I hope that's acceptable!!!   
Reply #593 Top
Well, when we spend all of our spare time working on the mod. I hope that's acceptable!!!


it is  
Reply #594 Top
Yes, the mod is still be worked on...before there use to be 3 modders working on it but now it's temporarily down to 2 (Han891 & Knightblade).

UPDATE

A day after I posted the above quote, Han891 informed us from the official ST Mod forum of a third modder (OMEGA) being hired to assist in the stable mod overhaul. Han891 also included some other interesting updates...

WWW Link
Reply #595 Top
Looking foward to trying this stuff out. I've always been a big Star trek fan(well, since TNG). Anyone ever play the Starfleet command games? They were awesome if you had some buddies to play multiplayer with.
Reply #596 Top

That's great to hear that this fantastic mod is still being worked on, I had packed this game up and had gone back to playing Birth of the Federation, but now that there's this mod, I'm back to playing Galactic Civ - with this mod installed of course.


han891,

Thanks for registering me on your site, and don't worry about it, especially if you're ignoring your forum admin duties to work on the mod.
Reply #597 Top
Well I just gave up on this since I could never even design a ship without a crash. Never got accepted to their forums to ask for help there, either.

I'll try again if it ever gets updated.
Reply #598 Top


And just so you know, there is no such thing as constructive criticism. People either are giving compliments or criticizing. When a parent points out a childs mistake the child, (even teenagers), are not going to say "Thankyou for pointing that out to me ..." They know they have messed up. When was the last time you were in a room and somone said that to their parent after being criticized?




I’m sorry, I know this is old (chuckling to myself) but I just couldn’t keep quiet... in fact I had to laugh at this comment. It really says something that he used a child... or maybe “even teenagers” to support his argument. I think every one expects this kind of behavior from a 4 year old. So if that’s the case, I guess ill let the comment slide. As for the rest of us grow adults (even us nerdy trekies) I LOVE THIS MOD!! excellent work! and thank you sooo much for your hard work. it really is very much appreciated.

... and... UGLYCOW, your computer’s stats really aren’t all that special. After how much you pumped up your amazing machine I expected something... well amazing welcome to average in Nerdom again... I just couldn’t help myself. HAVE A LOVELY DAY!


So your vast intelligence can 't find a problem with my post on how this mod is a scam and you point out a problem with a hypothetical situation. I was using that situation in an attempt to communicate on a level I thought you might understand. And I am a trekie. I pointed out the issues I have with this mod. All you say is you love this mod. That's it? That's your posiiton? ...Ok.... what about it do you love? Let's have an intelligent conversation. How did I pump up my machine anyway? For about $700 I got a dual processor computer, 3gigs of RAM and a now average graphics card that can currently play every game on the market, and the ones comming out, at max settings. How is this boosting my machine? If all this is average, great! It would totally suck if my computer was the best on the planet. I would probably feel guilty and give it away to charity.

I for one would like to know why there are not as many moders working on it as there used to be? Is it because they know it totaly sucks, are they on vacation, did someone get hit with a brick fired from a potatoe cannon that was riged on a tank? Or perhaps I am mistaken? When I downloaded this mod I was estatic, I love Star Trek. But the people who made this mod decided to destroy their own reputation and ruin a perfectly good sci-fi universe idea for the game. I don't know of any other mod that makes everything crash like it's running on imagination. Windows 95 never crashed like this thing. I have never had another conversion mod cause so much trouble, actually any trouble. This mod makes Master of Orion III look like an ant that can play a life size piano, trumpet, and drums at the same time for 30 years nonstop and still be alive for 100 years afterwards signing pictures while being ant size the whole time. (I feel I have to spell everything out so you can understand since you enjoy taking things out of context like a .... let's not go there.)

I would like to like this mod, but currently it's a Messed Over Drag**(beep)**
Not a MOD.

I used the word "Drag" becuase this mod pretends to be a working computer program. It is actually a virus, unless the "modders" wanted to fool everyone into thinking it is a virus and have a good laugh becuase it's actually a working computer program. If this seems like nonsense crap to you then congratulations; you are a new species that has been encountered which has no depth to your mind and you can not think abstractly.(Another one of those "spell out" moments.)

But I probably should be glad that these "modders" didn't have anything to do with making the GalCiv2 powerhouse becuase these forums wouldn't exist since everyone would consider it a joke and little girls who just learned how to use a computer would come to whatever web page it was to laugh at it late at night during one of their slumber parties.

I should have posted this instead since you might be able to grasp this argument....


I love Star Trek.   I was very happy when I saw this mod.   I was very sad when I found out it was broken and the only thing working was the models.  If it worked I would be glad.  

I couldn't get any pictures and sounds that go with them when you click on them so I hope you can understand the yellow faces. Now it's time for your nap. After you wake up you can play with your chew toy.
Reply #599 Top
OK , first off lay off the guys who made this mod . They made this out of their love for the game and thought it would be nice to add to it . ( remember , people are not paid to make mods for games ... it's a hobby something they do in their spare time when they could be spending it with family or friends .)

Second , did you pay for this mod...no , so you really have no need to be so angry about it not working for you . Oh and by the way I had the same problems as you with ships not showing up at first , but later found out what I was doing wrong and fixed it .

Third , People leave modding projects for different reasons , the main one is burn-out ....I know because I make custom fields for second and ten football and after a while I just need to work on something else for awhile .


Now I'm not going to fight with you because I don't know you , and you may or may not be an ok person . I understand your disapointed the mod will not work for you but have you tried e-mailing the makers in private and asking for a little one on one help , they may help you .

As for the ship crashing there is a work around

I set the game to save after every turn , if the game crashes during ship combat I restart the game and turn off view combat . When that combat is resolved I go back and turn it back on . I sometimes will go for along while with out another combat crash .
Is it a pain..yes , but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do .
Later
Chris

PS . I am new here , so hello everbody , Hey and if you need help on this Mod let me know..I would love to help out
Reply #600 Top
I'm new to modding, and have a few questions about the mod.

It seems that each game that I've started gets about half way through and then crashes each time an animated battle starts. Let me explain further, when the game should go to the movie of the battle the game crashes, however it seems that this evolves only certain hulls. I've gone through the time to start a new game and view the hulls under the "new" tab and found some races that seems to violate the "tiny, small, cargo" norm. The Andorian, Klingon, Federation, Dominion (they don't have any). If I open the template tabs to view the hulls, I can see all hulls belonging to the race, if any template, even those that should be currently usable, is clicked that game crashes.

Once and only once the game went into animation of a battle, i was the romulain, and attacked borg transports, apparently they were armed so this tripped the battle sequence. This played out just fine. But, latter on when I came into contact with the Borg frigate, a small flat disk, the game crashed.

I am enjoying the tech tree changes and would like to get to a game completetion. What am I doing wrong?

WK Walker