Scoutdog

Scoutdog

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While I agree with you in general terms*, I can't fault the handling of this particular case. Police shot Suspect 1 in self-defense after one of their officers was shot, then pursued and arrested Suspect 2 (also armed and dangerous) after he resisted arrest. He is currently (as of yesterday) nearly incapable of speach due to an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound to the neck, and while in the hospital has been informed of his rights and provided with legal counsel. When he ge

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[quote who="Draginol" reply="115" id="3349457"]My general point is that if we want to keep the society we have, we should be thankful that most people's emotional instinct towards those who would seek to destroy them is anger and not compassion.[/quote]Yes and no. I couldn't care less about how people feel , but what matters is that we don't immediately rush to destroy people like the Boston Bombers without first learning all that we can from them to help prevent similar c

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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="97" id="3349257"]1. Wikipedia... OK. 2. UK. Fun read. Especially Table 3.1.[/quote]The information on the wikipedia parge is not intended to be factually accurate, only to show that crime prevention is a real policy with real conceptualization. As for the second.... Yes. Around 20% of the listed proposals could be seen to curtail individual rights, ignoring others (such as property tagging and gender-neutral television listings (strange one, that)) that <e

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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="93" id="3349172"]I am not "OK" with that. I am insistent upon it! While his actions are monstrous, we cannot allow ourselves to become like him. And depriving him of the rights of every citizen is sliding down that path.[/quote]I never thought I'd see you and I agreeing on something, but this is my analysis in a nutshell. As for "empathy"... it's an interesting mental exercise if nothing else, but I don't think I'm capable of it. I'm not at all s

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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="83" id="3349050"]At the act would seem the appropriate place to draw that line.[/quote]Good luck with that. Allow me to quote myself:[quote who="Scoutdog" reply="78" id="3348871"] to wait until the mass murderer has mass murdered, then kill him as well, which doesn't strike me as a terribly effective legal system seeing as many of these people are suicidal to begin with.[/quote] And that whole "power corrupts" thing cannot be the universal

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Banned because that should be ir radiating. Unless he wants to cause monkey's butts expand in a circular fasion. Which is much, much more concerning... [e digicons]>_>[/e] [e digicons]:sheep:[/e] [e digicons]:smitten:[/e]

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Here is why finals are evil (as a Computer Science Phd track): April 4th: Finals schedule is released, showing both classes that have conventional finals with said finals on May 02, ending early in the morning. Not having my own car, I call my parents to drive up and help me move out on that day. They are happy to do so. [e digicons]\o/[/e] April 9th : Professor C. announces that his cl

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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="72" id="3348840"]Too 'Minority Report' for me. But then you Canucks have criminalized opinions (hate speech) - no real barrier to criminalizing 'thought' or 'leanings'. Or 'treating' 'pre-criminals'.[/quote]Weren't you just saying that the criminals who commit serious crimes deserve no mercy or consideration? Yes, yes, I know, " pre -criminals" here, but where do you draw the line between "pre" and "post" in a way th

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.... aaaand the thread is going.... going................. goooooooooone. I have a stated policy of avoiding involvement in this sort of borderline-conspiratorial rhetoric. There's just no way to win such an "argument".

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[quote who="Matopicus" reply="41" id="3348431"]I mean to know why they did it and to actually understand why they did it are two very different things.[/quote]I've sort of been using the two terms interchangeably, but you raise a very good point as to the differences. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to really know without some level of understanding, or perhaps it would be better to say that knowing inherently brings about some measure of understanding. </

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[quote who="myfist0" reply="32" id="3348394"]Our thoughts go out to the friends and families of victims of these horrific bombings. While it is difficult to turn to points of law in times of tragedy, those are, in fact, the times we most need to cling to the values, laws and rights that make us who we are as a nation.[/quote] Exactly. Laws aren't just there to follow when it's obvious that they dictate the right course of action- they're there to guide us when the course o

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[quote who="Frogboy" reply="14" id="3348253"]Is anyone suggesting they not get a trial?[/quote]That seems to be the implication:[quote who="doortech1" reply="11" id="3348223"]I live in a small town in the country and we had some scumbags come into our hillside and murder two neighbors just three day ago. Frewsburg Skinner Homicide,search ,you will find it. So, yes kill em all.DT1[/quote][quote who="TechNoWeb" reply="10" id="3348219"]A needle in the arm is the appropriate punishment. That'

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[quote who="GoaFan77" reply="8" id="3348197"]We do need to understand the bombers, but whether you want to feel empathy towards them is another call.[/quote]Exactly. I'd like to add that "understanding" them comes in two different, but often difficult to disentangle, flavors: understanding what makes them tick so that we can better isolate and police future terrorists like them, and understanding what they were thinking so that we can level an appropriate punishment. It's this last th

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[quote who="WOM" reply="5" id="3348189"]Psychological evaluation? If your trying to kill me and I can kill you first, then I will. I don't care if you have all your mind or not.[/quote]At the time, that would be the correct decision. But now we have this... individual in custody, and we need to determine how cognizant he is of his actions before we can proceed. The best definition of "evil" I've been able to find is to know that something is wrong, and then of o

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