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Tir - Quan = Ur - Quan?

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February 2, 2006 5:54:21 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Hi, was playing The Ur-Quan Masters (Freeware remake of Star Control II) and was wondering, Tir-Quan training in Galciv increces soldiering by 25%, And in SCII/UQM the Ur-Quan were the evil dominators in the galaxy.


So, Is the Tir-Quan training building based of Ur-Quan or have I gotten it completely wrong?
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Reply #1 February 2, 2006 6:01:23 PM
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Quondo?
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Reply #2 February 2, 2006 10:11:17 PM
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Prolly not, evil(or just misguided) space-caterpillars probably aren't very good at martial arts. I think it's probable that Tir-Quan just sounded suitably alien and exotic.
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Reply #3 February 2, 2006 10:24:09 PM
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Yeah, But remember they did rebel against psychic domination by causing themselves excruciating pain to free themselves whilst smashing the living daylights out of mutant space toads.
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Reply #4 February 2, 2006 10:37:16 PM
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umm.... I don't.. You're not really making.. um.. I..

What?
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Reply #5 February 3, 2006 4:31:08 AM
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I'm not sure of the original derivation, but if you look at USENET from a decade+ back, you'll find reference to the Tir-An/ Tir-Quan Training (or something like that) for GalCiv on OS/2. I think it might have originally given you a ship bonus or a couple of advanced fighter ships. It's been awhile.
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Reply #6 February 3, 2006 4:55:08 AM
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Wow...

That certainly predates Star Control I (Circa 1990)

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Thanks for clearing that little thing up, I guess that now there is the possibility of the Ur-Quan being based of Galciv (OS/2)!

And plus, Where do
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Reply #7 February 3, 2006 4:59:54 AM
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umm.... I don't.. You're not really making.. um.. I..

What?


Too complicated to explain. Better if you simply download The Ur-Quan Masters and help yourself to the yummiest chunk of gaming goodness ever made. That goes for the rest of you!

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/

Hmm, now that I think of it, playing as the Ur-Quan in GC2 would be pretty awesome. If only there was a way to make it so that your text reads "Submit or die!" whenever you offer a peace treaty under favorable circumstances.
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Reply #8 February 3, 2006 3:11:56 PM
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Slave shielding *could* be done by having 8 fleets focusing on defence, and position them around a planet.

1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9 = fleets

5 = planet

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Reply #9 February 3, 2006 5:23:12 PM
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Umm, yeah. But then it wouldn't really be a slave shield. It'd be a fleet shield, rather.
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Reply #10 February 3, 2006 5:34:03 PM
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Too complicated to explain. Better if you simply download The Ur-Quan Masters and help yourself to the yummiest chunk of gaming goodness ever made. That goes for the rest of you!


I've already played it! The nostaglia...
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Reply #11 February 4, 2006 12:45:07 AM
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Star Control eh? I loved that game.
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Reply #12 March 1, 2007 10:01:42 AM
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And further StarControl goodness:

Dregin and Korath both the same species. Drengin trying to enslave the universe, where Korath is trying to exterminate the universe. Now where have we heard that before?
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Reply #13 March 1, 2007 10:22:42 AM
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Actually, the name "Tir Quan" is a transliterate for a chinese word which means "Iron fist"
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Reply #14 March 1, 2007 10:41:07 AM
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Starcontrol rocked.

Very,very,very fun game.


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Reply #15 March 1, 2007 12:56:21 PM
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I've only played star control i on my Sega Genesis. Remember thinking it was the greatest game that could ever be made. But the computer opponent was WAY to easy.

I love the references to the old games found in these forums.
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Reply #16 March 1, 2007 1:19:12 PM
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The Precursors also show up in both.   
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Reply #17 March 1, 2007 1:46:14 PM
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Oh yeaaaaa. Wasn't it great making the computer controled Mycon ship shoot itself by using that little UFO looking ship(Ariou??)?
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