How I see what a Moderate Republican is.

I think you end up getting attacked not buecause of your politics, but because of your condescending and insulting tone in many of your political postings. Extremism is often seen not as the position, but the attitude and vigor with which one tries to promote/defend it.

With minor exceptions, I believe as you do.  However, I think what sets us apart from the Left, and the far right, is in the extremism that we believe in the issues.

For Example, while I believe in conservation, I dont believe that it should take the holy grail of subjugating the rights and lives of mankind.

That is but one example.

Reply By: ZoombaPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005I think you end up getting attacked not buecause of your politics, but because of your condescending and insulting tone in many of your political postings. Extremism is often seen not as the position, but the attitude and vigor with which one tries to promote/defend it.

THANK YOU I will "try" to tone it down some.

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005With minor exceptions, I believe as you do. However, I think what sets us apart from the Left, and the far right, is in the extremism that we believe in the issues.For Example, while I believe in conservation, I dont believe that it should take the holy grail of subjugating the rights and lives of mankind.That is but one example.

yep when people start crying over the proposed new drilling in Alaska and the Cariboo {sp?} they forget {democratic dementia?}
the herd is 350,000 strong.

Yeah, how dare you vote issues and not toe a party line. That's, like, using your brain.



-A.

What is 'ludite'?
Is it anything to do with 'lopopy'?
Yes, MM, I think you really SHOULD 'spell it out'!

Reply By: Furry CanaryPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005 What is 'ludite'? Is it anything to do with 'lopopy'? Yes, MM, I think you really SHOULD 'spell it out'!

Lud·dite (plural Lud·dites) noun 1. opponent of new technology: somebody who opposes technological or industrial innovation 2. history 19thC protester against technology: a worker involved in protests in Britain in the 1810s against new factory methods of production and in favor of traditional methods of work [Early 19th century. Origin uncertain: according to tradition, named for Ned Ludd , an 18th-century farm worker in Leicestershire, England, who destroyed two stocking frames in a fit of rage.] Lud·dite adjective Lud·dism noun Lud·dite (plural Lud·dites) noun 1. opponent of new technology: somebody who opposes technological or industrial innovation 2. history 19thC protester against technology: a worker involved in protests in Britain in the 1810s against new factory methods of production and in favor of traditional methods of work [Early 19th century. Origin uncertain: according to tradition, named for Ned Ludd , an 18th-century farm worker in Leicestershire, England, who destroyed two stocking frames in a fit of rage.] Lud·dite adjective Lud·dism noun

Ludite spelled with one 'd' is actually an inhabitant of the biblical land of Lud. Worst thing that can be said about them is that they were neglectful of Rabbinical ordinances. (Oh my gosh!). Hmmmm, in that case, if you really want to stretch a point, I could be called (metaphorically that is), a Ludite. Although I'm not an inhabitant of Lud, I am certainily neglectful of Rabbinical ordinances.

Reply By: AngloesquePosted: Friday, January 21, 2005Yeah, how dare you vote issues and not toe a party line. That's, like, using your brain.

imagine that

Reply By: Furry CanaryPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005What is 'ludite'?Is it anything to do with 'lopopy'?Yes, MM, I think you really SHOULD 'spell it out'!

just correcting my spelling would be much better, thank you

Reply By: UBoBPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005Ludite spelled with one 'd' is actually an inhabitant of the biblical land of Lud. Worst thing that can be said about them is that they were neglectful of Rabbinical ordinances. (Oh my gosh!). Hmmmm, in that case, if you really want to stretch a point, I could be called (metaphorically that is), a Ludite. Although I'm not an inhabitant of Lud, I am certainily neglectful of Rabbinical ordinances.

great answere, and damn witty too, have an insightfull on me.

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, January 21, 2005

thank you for the concise definition drguy.

First, I don't know how long you have been blogging here, so correct me if I'm wrong. I think one reason Dems. may "call you names" is because in other blogs I have seen of yours you claim to have been a Dem for thirty some years. Now as of I think if I recall correctly, 2004 you became a republican saying that you believed that the Dems were out of touch with America. Now for the same reason I was enraged that people voted on "moral values" it makes them sound like bad people. Yes people on both sides say somewhat obscene things about one and other but that doesn't mean that they are horrible icky people. As I said I may very well be wrong, I may well be confusing you with someone else and if so correct me.

On another note upon my arrival here I may have said a few "mean" things about you. Please forgive me, at times then I did not know who was who and may quickly have jumped to conclusions.

Liberals have an inherent, outlandish penchant for libel and asinine animadversions. Liberals suck. They're fond of chucking eggs and fries when it comes to bona fide political discourse.
Good luck.

GhettoConservative aka South Bronx Conservative

Liberals have an inherent, outlandish penchant for libel and asinine animadversions

followed by:

Liberals suck

Ah the hypocrisy--how do you sleep at night?

Yeah, the religious right isn't shrill, extreme or loud. Except about gay marriage, abortion, birth control, premarital sex, unwed mothers, gay rights, gay sex, gays living together, or any other religion. Please.

Both sides have their extremes, but only one is stinking up the political process right now with lack of oversight and control. And that is the right.

See, I see your position as closer to that of a moderate Democrat. But, as both you and I have previously acknowledged, the Democrats are pretty much making it mighty uncomfortable for their "moderates", so you're probably more of a "moderate dem in exile".

I still wouldn't mind seeing the Democratic Party returned from the hands of the whacko left!

Except about gay marriage, abortion, birth control, premarital sex, unwed mothers, gay rights, gay sex, gays living together, or any other religion. Please.

Gay marriage isn't banned anywhere within the US. STATE SPONSORED gay marriage is the only thing not allowed. They can still do any durn thing they want (and, contrary to the popular myth, they CAN have ALL the same legal rights ensured as married couples if they simply take the time to put together the documents).

Abortion and birth control? Similarly, not banned. And there's no serious movement, even among the religious right, to ban them (though, again, some of us WOULD like to end STATE SPONSORSHIP of some of these practices, on certain moral grounds).

Premarital sex isn't banned, either. Again, no serious movement to do so. Making statements about morality as guidelines for PRACTITIONERS of that faith is religious freedom, something you apparently have a problem with.

Unwed mothers also are not banned.

Gay rights? Gays are not denied any civil rights, sorry. To say they should be a protected class is like saying someone should be a protected class because they like it "doggie style". It's absurd, and it shows the utter inanity of your argument.

Gay sex and gays living together? Sorry, again, no bans. Yes, churches do speak out about these practices, but again, it's called "freedom of religion". YOU are, in fact, the bigot by demanding the conservative church cease preaching the tenets of their faith.

NO religion has been banned in America, sorry. Again, no laws have been opposed to that effect. Now if you're talking about the exclusivity of the Christian faith that is taught in some churches, again, you're trying to tread on freedom of religion. If the Christian faith IS the one true faith, then you whining about those who preach that in public forums won't make a whit of difference at the day of judgment, now, will it?

Not ONE WORD of your response had a grain of truth to it. Perhaps you should examine the facts rather than listen to the rantings of militant anti-Christian pundits to guide your thinking.

I'm a rather Apathetic Moderate Democrat....I have similar views to yours...I'm just too lazy to talk about them that often.

~Zoo

#18 by mwea (Anonymous user) Fri, August 25, 2006 11:32 AM

Yeah, the religious right isn't shrill, extreme or loud. Except about gay marriage, abortion, birth control, premarital sex, unwed mothers, gay rights, gay sex, gays living together, or any other religion. Please.

I must agree that the far right is just as demented and twisted as the far left.

#19 by Gideon MacLeish Fri, August 25, 2006 2:23 PM

See, I see your position as closer to that of a moderate Democrat. But, as both you and I have previously acknowledged, the Democrats are pretty much making it mighty uncomfortable for their "moderates", so you're probably more of a "moderate Dem in exile". I still wouldn't mind seeing the Democratic Party returned from the hands of the whacko left!

the proof in how far my beloved DNC has slipped one need to look no further than the defeat of Joe lieberman.

21 by Zoologist03 Fri, August 25, 2006 2:46 PM

I'm a rather Apathetic Moderate Democrat....I have similar views to yours...I'm just too lazy to talk about them that often. ~Zoo

that must be pretty scarey zoo. lol

the proof in how far my beloved DNC has slipped one need to look no further than the defeat of Joe lieberman. - ModerateMan

Those are the voters ditching Leiberman, and probably because of his stand on Iraq. Expect to see that issue continue to hurt many incumbents on both sides of the aisle.