Can you rate the relative strength of the races?
From what I gather, its something like this, in generalized terms:
VR
VL
AR
TR
TL
AL
From what I gather, its something like this, in generalized terms:
VR
VL
AR
TR
TL
AL
Here is my opinion, stated in an earlier thread:
It depends on whether you are eco or frontliner/suicide, so I'll divide them up by that...I generally think of early game as very brief, with mid-game being broken up into "pre-titans" and "after-titans"...
Frontliner/Suicide:
Early game:
Early-Mid game (before titans):
Mid-game (first titans):
Late game:
Very late game:
Eco:
Early game:
Early-Mid game (before titans):
Mid-game (first titans):
Late game:
Very late game:
1. Vasari Rebels
2. Vasari Loyalists
3. TEC Rebels
4. Advent Rebels
5. TEC Loyalists
6. Advent Loyalists
1. Vasari Rebels Amazing titan, orkies, bombers
2. Advent Rebels Unstoppable fleet, great titan and wail, sc
3. Vasari Loyalists Eating Planets+kostura+high mobility titan, bombers
4. Advent Loyalists Unstoppable fleet, sc
5. TEC Rebels Good titan, weak fleets, BRB
6. TEC loyalists no titan, weak fleets, dual BRB
Am I seeing "no titan" ?
Also,

Should we not consider matchups? Since i agree with most of whats said.. I would argue tec or advent are the best on wing, and thus control the game if you went with vasari wings, even with tec/advent eco, you'd be losing..
No.
To be fair i don't give a shit if you agree with me or not.
I think this should be considered when rating a race. Because... IF i was to rate them it would be Advent-Tec-Vasari. Because i win my games with them in that order. I don't enjoy vasari, i don't like the play style, its slow. Not very rewarding.
Besides imo advent win any matchup early game. Unless you're playing someone exceptional, or you're unlucky with map spawn.
Seleucia has a nice breakdown of the strengths and weaknesses under various circumstances. Vasari are hands down the best late game. Their early game, if I'm to take the examples of "skilled" players I see online, consists pretty much entirely of trying to spam starbases offensively. I guess with the advent of corvettes (ho ho ho) in Rebellion, their advantage of getting LRMs with just one military lab suffered. I don't play vasari much - how do vasari players feel about their early game besides tier2 starbases?
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