Well, it seems I stirred up the pot on my rant. Yes folks I am aware that somethings take longer then others. I agree that somethings that were promised to the consumers long ago haven't been made available yet. Ie, FLYING CARS. As to what constitutes a good sports team I have no idea. But sports really are a poor comparison for programming. The reason I posted the way I did is because I have earned a degree in programming and have modded many Stardock games in the past. I know how they lay out their programs and from my own experience know how hard and how long it takes to make a game. The problem is rarely the code, it usually is the producers (ie the money behind it), and marketing pushing things forward before their time. My primary points were that they should have given more time to this project, that people have paid for, and still doesn't work. My rant is about buying something that should have provide me with entertainment and instead upped my blood pressure. Image buying a new car, driving off the lot, and it breaks down immediately. You tell the dealer and he say "Hey we are gonna work on that for you, no problem", you think great, they will get this done and I will be on my way. You ask, "How many days will this take to fix once you id the problem?" They say: "Well, we are looking at about 6-8 months to get it fixed." WHAT!?!?! The dealer then says: "But wait, we have a new car coming out real soon that will be better then this model" Dumbfounded, you look at him and say, "But I paid for this one in full already." "Yea, about that, well ya see, we will get around to it and keep you posted. We are also gonna hire a new mechanic to fix it up for you but we think he needs to work on the new car first. okay." Usually at this point most folks would punch the dealer in the nose and demand your money back. But hey we can always wait a few more months for that flying car, right? And who knows, maybe the Pirate will have their act together by then too, wouldn't that be Swell! Guess what, I hear they know can put a house fully together within a day! Yep that is right. pre-manufactured parts. That is a no shitter. And along those lines most code has previously been coded into a library and so you don't have to recoded stuff each time, thus making things faster and easier. You can even make your our library so you reuse previous code, wow, cool huh! Most problems come form the math. Yep, guess you really did need math after all. My frustration is I paid for a product, expecting it to work, and it didn't. As Lord Xia has said, this is my opinion. I post stuff in hope that the Dev team will read it. Their will always be those that think someone opinion is to strong, politically incorrect, or wrong because they cousin's friend's brother's girlfriend know differently. I am fully aware that there smarter people in the world then me. Stardock being one of them as they are in business and making money. I, as the consumer, just want them to fix my problem they created.