Diplomacy Help/Suggestions needed

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Long time player of the original SINS title.  After a lengthy hiatus, recently purchased the Entrenchment/Diplomacy expansions.  Usual  mode of play is computer stomp with friends.  Never had any problems with either the original SINS title or Entrenchment.

All 3 titles patched up to date via Impluse.  Verified integrity of all 3 titles via Impluse.

Couple of issues:

(1) Player selected Pirate missions don't seem to be launching.  Pirates are NOT disabled in the game options.  Teams are NOT locked.  Have tried with diplomatic victory ON and OFF and Teams Locked ON and OFF.  As human players you can select a mission with the Pirates, select the player target and planet of choice, choose the number of credits to spend, and offer the mission to the Pirates.  The Pirates happily deduct your credits, and the 5 min cooldown timer starts.  Pirates never arrive at the destination.  Parking scouts in the target planet, sun, and at various stategic locations show nothing.  We've even tried targeting each others planets yet no Pirates ever arrive.  The "normal" Pirate cycles by applying bounty work just fine, like they have always with the original title and Entrenchment (i.e a much smaller force shows up).  This behavior seems quite contrary to all the posts about Pirates needing a nerf.

(2) Out of Sync issues.  Played a Diplomacy game the other evening where our games (one other human ally) got out of sync.  In his game a good chunk of his armada was in another Sun's gravity well.  The perspective of my game was most of his armada was in OUR Sun's gravity well.  Since we are both in ventrilo we can compare observations.  Attacking fleets he saw arriving in our Sun's gravity well seemed to arrive much later in my games perspective.  Reloading from the most recent saved game points did not clear this issue up.  Looking at the ping screen, neither of us had a high ping, CPU load both around 20, and status OK for both.  No dialog box popping up complaining about de-syncs.

As stated earler I've never had any issues with either of the previous two titles.  I've done google and forum searches for any "missing" Pirate issues but all posts seem to be about OP/balance issues.

I'm hoping some regulars/devs have some suggestions as I've immensely enjoyed these titles and am looking forward to being able to play Diplomacy as it was intended, with some nasty Pirate mission launches.

--Xeno

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

1. this is a mystery as it works fine for me so not sure what the deal is with that unfortunately

2. yes a common problem (was introduced during Entrenchment but quickly dealt with) the devs are working though and have decrease the occurances

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

Update:

(1) Under options->file management deleted all the saved single player/multi player/auto save/recorded file content (had all human players do the same).  Tried new game of Diplomacy and pirate missions selected by human players worked for the 1st time (fleet sizes were amazing)!

(2) Sadly still getting de-syncs.  After about 2 hours of great play time our games diverged (i.e. battles and ship movements for one player were not the same as observed by the other player in the same gravity wells).  Restarting causes NEW events (i.e new pirate raids) to again be synced, but any divergence is still broken.  Again, I did not experience de-syncs under Entrenchment, only with Diplomacy.  From a trouble shooting perspective is there any information I can collect for devs to help isolate this or track it down?  I'm happy that offering pirate missions seems to be fixed but the de-syncs make it impossible for longer playing games to be completed.  Ideas?

 

--Xeno

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

one thing about the pirates... preety sure you cant tell them to go to a planet around a star wehre there are no pirate bases... so, you can still tell the pirates to go attack that world, but since they cant get there, they do nothing.

 also, the ships have to travel from the pirate bases... so if there is a starbase and a phase inhibiter and some other fun stuff between the pirates and the destination, they might all die before they get there.

as far as the de-syncs... these still plauge us... but there is a way to help the devs fix them for the next patch... instructions in this thread. https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/369880

(the devs thank you for your help)