Level of Ignorance on the Left is Astonishing

Too Stupid to Breath

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/california-students-sent-home-wearing-flags-cinco-mayo/
from JoeUser Forums

The level of stupidity on the left in this country continues to amaze me.  The latest incident in their quest to subvert the laws, culture and citizens of the US comes to us from California, where 5 children were sent home from school.  Their crime?  They wore the American flag on outerwear.

That is it!  You can burn the flag, use it to wipe your behind with, stamp on it, spit on it or piss on it.  But in Left America, you cannot wear it.  At least not on a holiday created by an alcohol company!

You see the gotcha here was that they wore it on May 5, or as it is known south of the Border - Cinco de Mayo.  But those south of the border do not even celebrate the day as a holiday!  And contrary to ignorant liberals, it is not their independence day.

For sure it is a memorable day (akin to the US celebrating the Battle of New Orleans in 1814/5). A small band of militia defeated the French Army at the Battle of Puebla (but then who has not beat the French?).

So on this non-day (except for an excuse to drink alcohol - a good lesson to teach high school children, right?), these children were booted out of school for wearing the AMERICAN flag in AMERICA.  Thanks be to all liberal idiots.

I love to hoist a few cervezas now and then.  And I sure do like Corona (although many from south of the border will tell you that is not a good beer).  But I am not going to do it at a school, nor am I going to advocate doing it at a secondary school. But Liberals think you must.  At least to the exclusion of doing anything inflammatory like wearing an American flag.

I would love for the whole world to celebrate July 4th.  It is a special time for the world as America lead the way in creating a new type of government.  One that is prevalent today in most of the world.  And I have no problem celebrating September 16 in honor of my wife and relatives and the struggle they went through mere decades after America to gain their own independence.  It was a noble endeavor on our friends and neighbors to the south.  But I am not going to penalize some one in Mexico for wearing their flag on their shirt on July 4th.

But then I have never been accused of being a liberal.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

I really don't know about this situation, nor do I know about Cinco de Mayo.

But I do know that if a Canadian flag is waived around in any crowd during the 24th of June in Quebec, you'll get booed and thrown stuff at you.

But maybe it's a different circumstance, as I don't know what Cinco de Mayo is really about.

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

But I do know that if a Canadian flag is waived around in any crowd during the 24th of June in Quebec, you'll get booed and thrown stuff at you.
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Hell, if you waive an American flag ANY DAY at a DNC convention, you will get booed! ;)

But booing is one thing.  Penalties for doing it are another matter altogether.

Cinco De Mayo  is really a little battle in what became a continuing struggle of Mexico to assert its independence from Spain.  Spain started using some French mercenaries and one group got their butts kicked by the Mexican Militia (the French came back later in force and wiped out the village where the original victory had occurred).

Again, it is not a holiday in Mexico as like most countries, they do not celebrate every battle victory (most just celebrate the war victories).  So for the clowns at Live Oak HS to not only promote a racial stereotype, but to penalize people who do not fall for the ignorance is beyond malfeasance.  it clearly is stupid.

Galactic Civilizations III
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Hell, if you waive an American flag ANY DAY at a DNC convention, you will get booed!
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That's just plain wrong and unfair, you know that Guy. DNC are just as patriotic as you are, in their own way.

Again, it is not a holiday in Mexico as like most countries, they do not celebrate every battle victory (most just celebrate the war victories).
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What is Mexico's national holiday? You know, the equivalent of the 4th of July, 1st of July, 24th of June or 14th of July?

(without looking up on the net, can you guess the nations of these?)

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

That's just plain wrong and unfair, you know that Guy. DNC are just as patriotic as you are, in their own way.
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Come on Cikomyr, don't tell me you missed the ;) at the end of that sentence? You know, this comment of yours could be considered "out of context".

But I do know that if a Canadian flag is waived around in any crowd during the 24th of June in Quebec, you'll get booed and thrown stuff at you.
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Thank you for the interesting Canadian fact, but what is your opinion on the subject of this article? You claim to know little if anything about "Cinco De Mayo" but you have access to the Internet to find out. None the less lack of knowledge of "Cinco De Mayo" should not keep you from agreeing or disagreeing with the idea of kids being punished in some way for wearing the US flag in the US in a school that has no policy against it just because they wore it during a non-Mexican holiday not celebrated (only observed and enjoyed) in the US.

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

That's just plain wrong and unfair, you know that Guy. DNC are just as patriotic as you are, in their own way.
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Chill dude!  Did you not see the smiley face?

What is Mexico's national holiday? You know, the equivalent of the 4th of July, 1st of July, 24th of June or 14th of July?

(without looking up on the net, can you guess the nations of these?)
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I better know mexico's! My wife is of Mexican descent (her mother is from Guadalajara).  Sept 16.

France is July 14.  I do not know july 24 and July 1 is Canada and many others (although there is controversy since that is a grant day, not a day of declaration).

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

A gal here at work is from Mexico.  I asked her if SHE knew what Cinco De Mayo was about.  She didn't know and noted that they don't celebrate it in Mexico. 

Much pomp and circumstance for something most don't even know anything about.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

France is July 14. I do not know july 24 and July 1 is Canada and many others (although there is controversy since that is a grant day, not a day of declaration).
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24th of JUNE! not July!

St-Jean-Baptiste, the French-Canadian (and Quebec's) national holiday! ;)

Chill dude! Did you not see the smiley face
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I did, but I still won't allow you to steer away from reasonable objectivity, Guy! You are better than that! :D

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

Some Hispanic kids at this particular California high school, were offended that the five choose to wear US Flag themed clothing. The Latino principal and vice principal took it upon themselves to defend Mexican honor. How dare these 5 insult Mexico. If we don't make amended they might stop sending illegals to such a mean place like the US.

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

If we don't make amended they might stop sending illegals to such a mean place like the US.
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Yes. Because the illegal alien crossing the border is the responsibility of the legally immigrated citizen of mexican ethnicity?

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

Come on Cikomyr, don't tell me you missed the at the end of that sentence? You know, this comment of yours could be considered "out of context".
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Don't be too hard on Cikomyr.  I figured he was having a rough time.  he has cut me a lot of slack in the past, and figured he was just tired from studying.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

24th of JUNE! not July!
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See?  I am tired too!  And I would not have known it even if I had read it right. But I will remember it now!

I did, but I still won't allow you to steer away from reasonable objectivity, Guy! You are better than that!
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Damn!  My own Jimminy cricket! :grin:

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Nitro, reply 8
Some Hispanic kids at this particular California high school, were offended that the five choose to wear US Flag themed clothing. The Latino principal and vice principal took it upon themselves to defend Mexican honor. How dare these 5 insult Mexico. If we don't make amended they might stop sending illegals to such a mean place like the US.
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YOu are quite right and they are very wrong!  instead of busting on the 5 children, they should have done their job and EDUCATED the ones offended on what IS REALLY Mexican Independence day.  So they lost on 2 counts.  Competency, and political correctness.

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

While the intent was noble (not wanting zealous fools to start fights with them), they get an F on outcome.

That said, come on Doc, you know this wasn't a left wing issue. Just some school administrator (aka teacher wannabe) being a douche. It happens all the time, even - god forbid - in areas where the schools and region is heavily conservative/right wing.

So I guess the level of ignorance on the Right is just as astonishing, eh? :P ;)

~L

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

I guess the common sense "vacation" is over. Nice while it lasted.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Nitro, reply 14
I guess the common sense "vacation" is over. Nice while it lasted.
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Hello to you too Nitro. How's the family? You doing alright?

~L

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

I wish I lived closer to some of the places these things are happening!

 

Cinco de Mayo isn't a national holiday in Mexico at all.  It is only celebrated in two places in the world.  The US and the Mexican state of Puebla (where the battle of Puebla occured). 

I always thought the US celebration was a result of marketing by the alcohol industry.  It probably snow balled because of that, but the US celebration was started in the 60s, as a gesture of friendship between the US and Mexico.

It turned out to be kind of an empty gesture because most Mexicans don't even know there is anything significant about the date.  It would be about the same as if the government of Mexico decided to show a sign of friendship between their nation and the US by celebrating Pioneer Day (July 24).  Which is only a holiday in Utah.

 

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions.

The boys will not be suspended and were allowed to return to school Thursday. We spotted one of them when he got to campus -- and, yes, he was sporting an American flag T-shirt.

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Fortunately, not everyone at the school district felt the same way as the overreacting administrators at the school.  I couldn't find a standalone article about the school district's statement, but MSNBC did update their article on the incident with that quote, above.  Article can be found http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179?GT1=43001

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

I think you all have missed a very important fact in this story. The boys were 'busted' at brunch break. WTF is brunch break? Do little butlers run around serving crepes and mimosas?

This school has other issues. They seem to have forgotten that school is a place to learn and not just a place to go hang out while their parents are at work.

I just don't get it. This school seems to be filled with idiots.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
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Even if you attended a year round school, July 4th is a national holiday. No one goes to school on July 4th. Mexican/American students wouldn't have the opportunity to offend anyone.

Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

This school has other issues. They seem to have forgotten that school is a place to learn and not just a place to go hang out while their parents are at work.
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Actually, I'd be curious to see if there is much violence problem between the hispanics and the white kids, a.k.a. gang-related.

If that is the case, wearing American flags at a mexican-centric festivity might have sparked more trouble than it was worth.

But I ain't making up excuses there. As said earlier, I don't know the facts. Problem is, WE don't know all the facts either. What is the school's current climate, ethnicity-wise?

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top

They seem to have forgotten that school is a place to learn and not just a place to go hang out while their parents are at work.
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John, tell that to the little Latino girl, a student at the school, that stated she "wouldn't wear a Mexican flag on US Independence Day". Apparently this school isn't even telling them it's a made up holiday to promote drinking...as Ted pointed out. I would not mind one bit if she, or anyone else, wore a Mexican flag on a US holiday, or 24/7 for that matter that would make it much easier for ICE to check ID's. ;)

Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting just, reply 21
This school has other issues. They seem to have forgotten that school is a place to learn and not just a place to go hang out while their parents are at work.
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Don't be silly, schools are where you go for liberal indoctrination.

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top

"wouldn't wear a Mexican flag on US Independence Day".
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Even if she were in Mexico, where the 4th of July is just the day after the 3rd of July?

This whole thing is kind of staggering. When I first read the article, I couldn't imagine a Mexican student saying "Hey, today is a holiday in the country I come from [which, yeah, it's not, but say for the sake of argument that it is], so even though this is the United States, where it is not a holiday, I better not see any American flags anywhere!"  I thought, wow, to assume that the Mexicans would be so unreasonable, and to assume that fights would break out (because you know, Mexicans are so angry and violent), shows a huge amount of racism on the part of school officials.

And then I find out that there were actual students who were offended... and that on Thursday there was even a protest march of 200 Hispanic students demanding "respect" over this whole thing...

What the hell, man?