work is fun (aside from the A$$hole supervisors I have to deal with) but it does require quite a bit more than school ever did hence my comment

as for dealing with family, well life is what you make of it

the fact that you let others mess with your contentment is a sign of immaturity

Soo.. .you're Immature since you let your supervisors mess with your contentment at work?

I guess we're all a bit immature in some way. Nobody's perfect.

Xer0 \^/

yep

flipside is that I walk away from them, do my job and enjoy that aspect of it, then return and ignore them

the supervisors affect very little in the end

He doesn't let the supervisors mess with his contentment, the supervisors mess with his contentment.

With your family you can actually say: get off. I would not try this at work

-Exiled Possum  (also known as werepenguin)

Good strategy; Don't get your hands dirty by confronting your problems and stooping to their level, just walk away and let them hurt themselves.

Xer0 \^/

basically yeah

its called covering your butt

you do your job to the best of your ability and any issues you can't handle? pass the buck up

therefore you are happy with what you did

and what tesb said is true, telling your boss off is unwise, even when with a Union at your job

Srry for the 10 minute delay, I was busy w/ my e-mail.

Anyway, typically whenever I fight w/ someone who's too stubborn or stupid to let me say my piece, I just agree w/ them until they cool down enough for them to let me walk away.  I guess it's the same thing overall.

Xer0 \^/

Doing your job and ignoring your boss isn't really stooping to their level. I do what I do and my boss does what he does. We both use power tools, but he constantly harasses me about this or that. I shrug it off and if either of us mess up, only one ends up covered in blood. As long as it's him, I don't care.

I'm not attempting to make his job harder in any way, just not sympathetic to his concerns unless he's proven right in having them.

As for family, I'll tell them to turn a pineapple sideways and inhale it through their asshole if they don't leave me alone when I have shit going on. Some more than others.

QTF

Xer0 \^/

yeah family are a whole different story

the closer you are to someone the more often you are to be pissed off with them

the trick is to look at what pisses you off about them, realize how minor the issue really is and ignore the issue, if it is major then something needs to be done (though if they are not willing to deal with it then you did what you could and leave it)

The major issue w/ my family is that for one; I'm only 1/2 or less related to all of them but my Mom, and that since I'm the quiet one in the house, whenever someone gets pissed they take it out on me since they know I won't scream back until my face is red.

Xer0 \^/

I only have two relatives I have to put in their places, and it's very much because they won't straighten up. So my sympathies run shallow.

Other than that, I'm a total rat bastard.

For me, it's not that they need to be put in their places, it's that they're too stubborn to accept another (AKA: mine) point of view that differs from theirs... it's like living in a colony of ants; strangers will be terminated.

Xer0 \^/

Hell, that's life. I work, am related, and hang out with people like that. They're everywhere.

such ones need to be ignored, (exception is parents, their house their rules, sorry dude) and when they get all huffy puffy about something and start screaming, look at them and say "do you feel better now? good, now go away"

maybe they have a point in being not satisfied with you? i don't know your parents and while a lot of parents are simply bad at parenting, the fact still stands that children in your age are an impertinence to society and especially to parents.

-Exiled Werepenguin Possum

'impertinence to society'

doesn't sound as rough and tumble as 'menace to society', but I like it.

And even if it's not that Xer07 is a menace or her parents have bad parenting skills, if you develop in a way which they did not intend or do things that they think are unwise, they're not going to be jazzed about it. Humans have expectations.

Having too high expectations for your kids and not allowing them the room to make errors and develop on their own is a sign of bad parenting (all within reason of course, guidance is always necessary)

-Exiled Possum

True, but there are some gray areas. Take my brother for example. He's a goth and my parents were initially concerned that getting into such a genre would potentially lead him into trouble, figuring he would get into drugs, violence, etc. So they disapproved and tried a bit excessively to lead him on another path. Failing that and years going by, they discover that he's just as harmless as ever. Now they just think he looks really silly and my dad is the teasing type while my brother is the overly sensitive type. So he could currently go on about how he's an individual and he's not appreciated, but my dad could really care less what he does as long as he gets a job and gets the hell out of my parent's house.

Teasing is fine imho, when you know you are being teased because of affection towards you. (if this is not the case it is bullying)

There will always be some hurt, when living with people. You just should (have to) say so, when this is the case and not expect that they would notice and change on their own. All this "they hurt my feelings, but instead of talking to them i cut myself" is a road to disappointment and sorrow in live.

-Exiled Possum

total agreement

assimilation completed

-Exiled Possum

Right... let's just consider this a once in a lifetime event.

hey i had to post something

-Exiled Possum

And I'm back!

Yeah, I know, your amazed I'm still alive.

I passed the ASVAB(It's insanely easy) and MEPS. Unfortunately I did not take a job as I could not find a position that suited me(It should open up more later), it didn't help that I'm apparently in some degree color blind, which is a DQ for most jobs.

I see everyone is still alive. Good to know that you guys didn't burn each other.