It was specifically mentioned the the sovereign does NOT die of old age.

Remember things CHANGE throughout the process of developing a game. Thus, this is probably one that has changed with the advent of children and aging. Thus if the channeler dies his offspring can take over for him and the game continues on an on an on until you take out the whole race, all it's cities and castles and everything. Or from what has been most RECENTLY mentioned by Brad: Doing other things to establish a victory vs having to clear the map. Like Casting "The Spell Of Mastery" which I asked for several posts and threads back around May or June.

Where he can really put the game over the top with this is like a lot of other developers are doing now and giving the PLAYERS the OPTIONS of how they want the victory conditions to be. The Civilization series has been doing this for years now. Either you can win by conqest (my favorite) or you can win by political (being voted king sovereign of all) or you could win by total influence (we've seen that in Civilization and Galactic Civilization series) or of course in Civilization being the first to launch for Alpha Centauri. In Alpha Centauri it was the first to mind warp to another plane of existance. GalCiv 2 had some technological victory as well. MOM had the Spell of Mastery spell. Main thing give us lots of options and most especially with the channeler whether the game ends when/if he/she dies etc. etc.

The varied victory conditions have always been there.  Including the "spell of Making"

I guess this means Men and Fallen can interbreed, possibly producing mutant children?

The same article that mentioned children mentioned that the childeren age and die UNLIKE the sovereign who is immortal.

Just be carefull... If you make the game simple enough that even a 10 year old will love it, you might make the game so simple that ONLY a 10 year old will love it...

Was MOM so simple that ONLY a 10 year old loved it?

All they have to do for the most part is pattern after MOM. Simple yet detailed. Lots of toys to discover and fight over. Lots of Crypts, Dungeons, Caves and Towers to explore and find kewl things in. An AGGRESSIVE AI that knows how to use at least most spells and of course the more powerful ones. An AI that will build and construct the buildings necessary for survival and power. An AI that will use SETTLERS or whatever is used to gain more territory or ground in the game unlike AOW Pioneers that the AI could never quite get the git of how to use them. Keep combat simple and not tedious. Eliminate that dam 25 turn run around the map to survice feature though. That was the most annoying thing I ever saw and the AI never used it so why should the human have such an advantage and exploit like that? Have tons of researched AND discoverable spells. Don't have ALL the spells in the research book/lab either. In fact the MOST POWERFUL spells should have to be discovered in the game in those crypts and dungeons and towers and caves. Also over time these crypts, towers, dungeons and caves should replenish so that just because one player got there first doesn't mean that player is the only plalyer ever to discover that spell. Keep industry simple just like MOM. A few clicks and everything is for production or growth and have a separate research and mana pool just like MOM did. And most of all don't try to BALANCE the dam thing. One of the best things about MOM and I can't say it enough is it wasn't balanced and I loved it. It was one of the few games where I got to snub my nose at the multiplayer crowd that was in the beginnings of taking over everything.

I'd like to steal my worst enemies wife and add her to my "harrem"...hehe. Hell give me his daughters too...why not?

Did I mention I LOVE BEING EVIL!!!!

Sssshhhh, they don't know where to find me

ATTENTION!!! Have you seen this man? He is wanted in 12 countries for raping, pillaging, and laughing at the lamentations of the women!!! If seen please do not approach him as he is considered magically armed and dangerous!!!

LoL....j/k

That is indeed me, my friend. My wife and I went to Medieval Times here in Florida for part of our honeymoon. That's me sitting in a throne.

Am I the only one getting a little comfused? The way I interpret the lore, the Sovereign is immortal, as in "does not die of old age". But the Sovereign is not invincible, as in "cannot be killed". I think there's an important distinction to be made.

ON TOPIC: I would really like the option of having sovereign death = end of game vs. dynastic empires (ie. the game continues as long as the royal family exists) to be implementet as a Game Condition of some sort. Personally I would play with the Dynastic Empires, because that somehow makes the world come more to life! Deciding whether or not to send the Scion of the CoffeeMonkian Empire to war against the enemy would have a much more personal attachment than just having to protect the Sovereign at all costs.

I think I remember seeing somewhere that the Sovereign would be able to grant other characters (including children I assume) a part of his essence. So even if your Sovereign took a meteor to his face, you could still be in the game, with the Scion (also a powerful channeler on his own right) seeking to avenge his father and rebuild the Empire... Or some such.

I liked how in MoM if you had Wizard towers in two cities, and your main Wizard got killed/defeated in one of them, he would warp to the other one, still alive.

@psychoravin: oops, did I say friend? I meant to say FIEND lol j/k

Given your attitude, you shouldn't be surprised

Problem is, the devs have flatly stated and never changed their minds on the fact that channeler death = game over.  Until that changes, all the reading you want to do between lines doesn't change a thing.