Where are these engines?

 You have to research bigger faster engines. In TA if you're playing the Altarians for example, you have to research New propulsion techniques - Ion drive - Impulse Drive ect.... in order to get bigger, faster engines. I believe that the Arceans are a bit different but I haven't really played them yet. Once you've researched the new engines you can place them on new ship designs for a faster fleet.

No I know about drives but the manual says there are things that are engines not drives that take up more space but give alot more speed. if their just saying better drives then their wording is very odd casue it is made to sound like theirs another type of device. here is the manuals quote.

"By default your ship moves at 1 parsec a turn( 1 space). Milestone propulsion technologies (such as impulse drive) can add to this base.  However, you can boost your ship speed further by adding engines. Engines use up a lot of space in exchange for adding a lot of moves to your ship."

again if this is just odd way to say research better drivesa cool but otherwise they really made this osund like their talking about two differant things

If you play as the Arcaeans, you won't get any engine components unless you trade for the technology from another race.  Instead their ship speed is based on how many navigation centres are present at the planet when the ship is built.

The other races all get engine components in their tech trees.

At various points on each tech tree you may gain a bonus to your racial Speed ability, which is a bonus over and above whatever speed is listed at the shipyard.  In other words, if a ship on the design screen has a rating of 5pc/week and your race has a speed bonus of +30 then the ship will be able to move at least 8pc/week when built (other speed bonuses may apply).

I know that stuff again the way they say engines liek their a seporate tech that gets attached to the ship.

There are techs to research, which give flat bonuses to speed sometimes (drives). These techs unlock engines, which are ship components.

So: tech "X Drive" gives +10 to speed. It unlocks the "X Drive" component, which gives a further bonus.

ok so fro mthe sounds of it their just talking drives but very baddly worded it.  thats cool I just was at first like "why are there none of these engine parts and only drives?" so thanks again I guess they best try to figure out in next manual a better way to explain it so they know it is one item their talking about not 2.

If I might, I think that what the OP is looking for are techs like Fleet Warp Bubbles.  Things that, above and beyond drives, increase the speed of ships.  Not every race gets them, but like the Humans do. 

Okay, this is what the manual says:

Adding Engines to Your Ship

By default, your ships move at one parsec per turn (1 space). Milestone propulsion technologies (such as Impulse Drive) can add to this base.

However, you can boost your ship speed further by adding engines. Engines use up a lot of space in exchange for adding a lot of moves to your ship.

And yes, the phrasing is a bit clumsy.  What it should say is that you can add more engines to your ship.

When you create a ship, it has a basic engine in it by default.  You don't add this, it's just there.   This is what moves at 1 pc/wk unless you get speed improvements.

You can then add more engines that take up a lot of space and allow your ship to move faster.

Hyperdrive is the first of these.  You can get better, and smaller, ones later if you research them.  But from day one, you can add (more) engines to any base design to make a ship move faster.  For example, I usually add more engines to colony ships at the beginning of a game so I have a better chance of getting to planets before the AI races eat them up.

yeah I know by now we finaly figured it out it's simply baddly written is all.