Debt and Spending

Debt and Spending are completely unrealistic

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So, I upgrade a bunch of ships, and my treasury goes below -500. I get a message that says that I have to suspend all spending and production until my debt is back above -500.

This is total BS.

Have any of the game developers ever even heard of the United States of America? We're running the biggest deficits ever dreamed, and we're still spending like crazy!

I know deficits are bad, but I've got to get my economy stimulated somehow. I created millions of jobs for those contractors who are upgrading my ships.

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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Well, the US still lives via loans, which you could do with your ships next time, buy them on loan.

Another way to look at it is that your government has learned from the mistakes of governments of the past...

Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Loup has a bit of a point, but so does the OP, even though I really can't give much credence to a plea for realism in a highly abstract game like GC2.

Smacksay, your frustration is not news to longtime forum folks. Many of us have had similar frustrating moments when we encountered one of the hard-coded econ oddities. The treasury >10k and >20k penalties get more attention, maybe because most folks are just 'naturally' averse to deficit spending. What GC3 needs is a model that links these values to a specific game context (population, number of colonies, average past 5 turns income, whatever). When you're taking in many thousands of BCs per turn, the -500 debt floor just seems silly. Just keep in mind that there are many players who prefer small, short games, and on those maps 500 BC tends to remain 'a fortune.'

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