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Nacey
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Reply #8301 June 3, 2013 4:10:35 PM
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And BOOM, goes the dynamite..!!!

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Reply #8302 June 5, 2013 10:07:27 AM
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Geh. Just got D|S .12 and now there's Rebellion 1.5 coming, and based on the changelog I'd wager it'll break D|S again.

What really stinks is how it looks like it's going to fix most of the crash issues. It's as if stardock's trollfacing at us right now. <.< "Haha! We fixed all your crash bugs, but we also moved all the weapon effects to a new directory so your mod won't work anymore!"

</rantmode>

So! From what I can gather there's two kinda-active developers left. I might be interested in becoming a third kinda-active developer. I haven't modded Sins before (aside from changing a few profile pictures), but I am rather self-driven once I have a starting point. Would anyone mind linking me to some resources I should be reading?

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Reply #8303 June 5, 2013 3:06:31 PM
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Yep, DS minidumps whenever I enable it with the new sins patch.

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Reply #8304 June 5, 2013 4:42:37 PM
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Hey DS team. I have a possible balance issue.

I was playing Vasari against 5 unfair AI's. Two Tec, Two Advent, One Vasari (This is Diplomacy DS)

Had my ass kicked handily for a while (two TEC's allied with each other then stabbed each other in the back after destroying everyone else, apparently).

It took hours, but after being beaten back to four planets I managed to take one after another with the fleet of fightery doom. (Never had a game where I had all 32 capital ships at level 10)

 

Anywho... as the TEC took over the galaxy, by hour six he built 145 culture centers. 

11:13 hours into the game, I had stomped him down to 92. I matched his 92 at this point. 

11:24 hours into the game, we had planetary parity of 20 each. I had 94 culture centers to his 87. I had no choice but to have a single capital ship factory to score up losses, and three frigate factories, NO trade or refinery structures, all in order to save room for culture centers, and could not use my starbases for trade centers due to the novalith spam. (Tec Logistics upgrade is way more powerful than some realize).

13:00 hours I had 150 Culture centers to his 37. At this point, his 37 culture centers were STILL BEATING MINE. I left a planet with my fleet and his culture poured in like water in a gas giant's gravity well. Whenever my fleet would leave a planet, if there was another path for culture to flow between my fleet and my planet, I would lose the planet. I lost SIX PLANETS TO CULTURE while in the decisive battle of the game (10 Capitals and 400+ units of his versus my First Fleet of 26 and 100+ escort---I had to keep the other six for Marauding Pirate Patrol).  Keep in mind that these planets I lost had maxed out logistical slots with culture centers. Anywhere between 3 on asteroids to 10 on the huge ocean world. I actually lost the ocean world with 10 culture centers to their culture centers at one point. How the hell does that work?

 

Is the Vasari culture weaker by design, or is this a possible balance issue?

 

Side note, I think I devastated my previous record for damage dealt during a game. This one hit 30.5 Million while receiving 19.6 Million, with 500k in planetary damage. 

And wow... 22565 user actions.  I thought 8000 was a lot.  

 

 

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Reply #8305 June 5, 2013 6:16:51 PM
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Yes Vasari Culture is the weakest in game. Design.

Yes 1.5 breaks the mod. While let Nacey know, especially with the new DLC that will cause issues.

@Nefew - Will talk to the gang (what's left of us) and ask.

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Reply #8306 June 5, 2013 8:07:24 PM
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Ryat: Thanks, I appreciate it. I know how to program in C so I won't be totally lost. I mainly need to know how to get on your repository and how to compile things for Sins. I'm not great at writing from scratch, but I'm generally good with debugging stuff. I have this weird gut instinct that tends to be right, so I figure I can help with some of the minidumps (provided someone can explain how to read those!)

Do you guys have an IRC channel or something somewhere? It'd make life a lot easier.

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Reply #8307 June 5, 2013 8:23:46 PM
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Download Notepad++ first of all. There are some conversions tools laying around, harpo99999 has some good ones for switching the files from BIN to TXT. As for minidumps, well we can't read those so those are of no use.

As for an IRC channel we used to have one but not anymore. Nacey and I communicate through Skype/MSN Messanger though.

 

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Reply #8308 June 5, 2013 8:37:04 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 8305


Yes 1.5 breaks the mod. While let Nacey know, especially with the new DLC that will cause issues.

 

Any ETA on when it'll be functional? I know these things take their time, so I'm trying to word this carefully so as not to upset you all. Just wanting to know if it'll be a few days, or weeks, or something like that, gonna wait patiently. (PS, thank you for all your hard work, this is my favorite sins mod.)

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Reply #8309 June 5, 2013 9:04:51 PM
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IDK to be honest.

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Reply #8310 June 6, 2013 12:02:56 PM
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Ryat: Heh, I already used Notepad++ for my work! I'll look for those conversion tools. In the meantime, which file has the equivalent of main() in it?

If you're 'kay with it, would'a mind adding me on Skype? I'll toss you a PM once I figure out how to actually do that..

 

Gunpocket: Someone always seems to ask this. There is no timeline, and there never can be. The developers don't know what stardock changed to break the mod. They have to find that first, then figure out how to unbreak it. It could be five minutes, it could be five years. There's simply no predicting it.

 

EDIT: Interesting. I just got the new DLC and it happened *instantly*. I think it's included with the update and purchasing it just flips a switch to enable access to it. There appears to be *no way to turn it off now that I have it*. ...In the words of Scooby Doo, "ruh-roh".

What does this mean? If I play it with someone else does my DLC get disabled or do I get an unfair advantage? Is there going to be a lot more work than we thought getting D|S to work now? Do we finally know what the Vasari are running from?

I need an adult-like figure!

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Reply #8311 June 6, 2013 12:58:48 PM
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Quoting Nofew,
reply 8310
I think it's included with the update and purchasing it just flips a switch to enable access to it.

This is indeed the case. Everyone that owns Sins in fact has the DLC, they just don't have the DLC switch turned on.

Quoting Nofew,
reply 8310
If I play it with someone else does my DLC get disabled or do I get an unfair advantage?

SD has made the DLC such that if someone hosts a multiplayer game with the DLC, and another player joins who does not own the DLC, everyone plays with the DLC enabled. The reverse is also true. Whether or whether not two people have the DLC will not prevent them from playing online together, mod or not.

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Reply #8312 June 6, 2013 2:42:10 PM
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Oh good. That helps a lot. Is there any way for me to turn it off in single-player now if I ever feel like doing it vanellia?

..Also, can we please keep the new volcanic texture from the DLC? Please? It's awesome. .w.

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Reply #8313 June 6, 2013 3:03:15 PM
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Quoting Nofew,
reply 8312
Oh good. That helps a lot. Is there any way for me to turn it off in single-player now if I ever feel like doing it vanellia?

None that I am aware of.

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Reply #8314 June 6, 2013 10:09:26 PM
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I use this mod usually for the awesome particles and increase in capital ship size, is there another mod thats not broken by 1.5 and dlc that would do the same?

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Reply #8315 June 6, 2013 11:55:39 PM
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Lavo_2: Well dang, then.

Kahshim1: That's mainly what I use it for too. The regular graphics in Sins are just so.. Boring. Except the new volcano textures. Those are epic.

There are mods that do similar things. D|S is mainly just a collection of other mods, anyway. Thing is, as far as I know, they're not maintained anymore; they won't even work in Trinity, let alone Rebellion 1.5!

I figure, if I can get in contact with the remaining devs, I can at least throw together a mod that'll bring back the shiny graphics. That should be somewhat trivial, especially since I may or may not have OCD and like doing these things. A lot. I can probably handle the work myself, but I'd like to be able to shoot a quick question over if I get stuck somewhere.

As for capital ship.. Caps, that's trivial. I could probably whip up a mod that increases it in ten minutes. ...Make that an hour, I forgot where the game.constants file is (or if that's even its name)..

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Reply #8316 June 11, 2013 3:03:42 PM
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Hey DS team,

I really appreciate all the work you've done on the mod.
I will wait patiently while you guys work on it.
Keep up the awesome work  

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Reply #8317 June 12, 2013 12:36:59 PM
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Guys, why is the download link for Rebellion version broken in sense of only downloading about 30-70 mb of file and saying that it's complete?

Can anyone give me alternate download link or a torrent?

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Reply #8318 June 12, 2013 1:12:53 PM
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Quoting TukMuk,
reply 8317

Guys, why is the download link for Rebellion version broken in sense of only downloading about 30-70 mb of file and saying that it's complete?

Can anyone give me alternate download link or a torrent?

Wouldn't matter right now as it won't work.

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Reply #8319 June 12, 2013 2:55:56 PM
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@Nofew

I'm an "old" lurker of this forum (since before Entrenchment), but I have not posted all that much. Rather near-nothing.
However, I've also been interested in perhaps helping out with the modding.

Stant123 was kind enough to PM me and help me with some starter pointers, so I'll just link the crucial one I think you could want too here:

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/419658/

 

@Ryat

If the situation has changed so that you're looking for fresh blood to help out, feel free to let me know/give me a PM.

I have my own life too, but this is a mod I enjoy playing with a friend or two (or three or four),
every now and then, so this is something I am motivated to help with . 

 

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Reply #8320 June 12, 2013 5:42:26 PM
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Hooray for fresh blood!

 

Fresh blood! Fresh blood! Fresh blood!

 

Let the fresh blood help!

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Reply #8321 June 13, 2013 2:33:13 PM
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I wish I could help more with it. Probably why I'm trying to mod more files and all. ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

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Reply #8322 June 13, 2013 4:09:16 PM
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Nice to know there are some willing volunteers. Nacey is already begun working up for a 1.5 release so hopefully soon.

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Reply #8323 June 13, 2013 5:19:14 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 8322

Nice to know there are some willing volunteers. Nacey is already begun working up for a 1.5 release so hopefully soon.

 

Ryat, I'm always around as well for a lot of the soft-modding things *such militia templates and stuff in the GalaxyScenarioDef file*.

 

I've also got a few ideas for abilities if we ever want to attempt to tackle some of the strike craft spam balance issues (on top of already what has been done).

 

Let me know. I'm always lurking.

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Reply #8324 June 14, 2013 7:33:20 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 8322

Nice to know there are some willing volunteers. Nacey is already begun working up for a 1.5 release so hopefully soon.

 

 

 

OH BOY A RELEASE DATE IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Need a paypal account to send money for coffee!!!!! and pizza cause it sounds good

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Reply #8325 June 17, 2013 5:53:37 PM
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Hey all, my God it's been a long time since I've posted here!

Let me apologise for all of the really delayed updates for you all, as you can now see there is a new variant of the Rebellion 1.5 + DLC available now. Whilst it doesn't fix the old minidump problem Distant Stars has had for some time it is fully compatible with 1.5... if you get a minidump when you boot up you'll need to re-download it.

Also please note I've supplied the MD5 for you to check your download to make sure it's downloaded properly, without further ado...

http://distantstars.mmobase.com/rebellion/Distant_Stars_(R)_ALPHA_0.13_[45189661].7z

MD5: 69486D2FCD3F35E46E6F5EF8C9F1634A

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