If anyone comes attacking you for this post, they'll have me to answer to.  I'll direct such bad thoughts at them that their dogs will shake after their baths.

If you think about it though, the ball has been in Harborne's court for a long time.  He's bringing this all upon himself.  The ball is still in his court and he is just sitting on it. 

Don't pretend that he's the victim.  He's the instigator and he can put a stop to it at any time.

That sounds reasonable.  Cheating on a gaming site is a pretty serious topic though.  It only goes as far as his empire and he has the remedy at hand whenever he wishes to use it. 

The problem is technically insignificant, but cheating doesn't come in degrees.  It's truely black and white.  Either cheat or don't cheat.  Continuing to do it only adds to the problem. 

He'll probably never regain his potential in the eyes of those who witnessed this.  That's a shame because he could have taken the high road from the beginning.  Sadly, it's too late now, but he can still limit the damage.  It's really up to him.  Always has been.

I'd like to see it end, but he continues even now.  It's hard to put something behind you when it's still happening.  He's still cheating right now.  He can end it without any loss to himself or to his sister.  He refuses.  His chosen message is to openly cheat without remorse.  How can we ignore that?

What is the point of this Freeman? You and seeker are the ones who are vocal about dropping the topic, yet you both continue to post in harbornes defence prompting further responses. Posting some of a quote out of context in another thread does the argument no help.

Having the conversations about the issue in private is paramount to sweeping the problem under the carpet...these issues require transparency and even now we still have not got all the cards on the table.

You and seeker like Harborne. WE GET THAT.

You want all the talk about harborne cheating to stop? Then get harborne to stop cheating. I grant he has gone some ways to eliminating the illegal characters from his empire but he refuses to go all the way and remove them all.

The reason does not matter, his sister, mother, father, i don't care. All accounts and characters created with illegal serials need to be removed. And that does mean all of them....

When he stops cheating then the community will stop talking about it.

I can say in all honesty Freeman, that both yours and seekers loyalty to a friend is remarkable, in fact both you guys are very defensive of harborne and his actions.

Sorry to say, makes me wonder why?

Finally. If there are no more characters to be found in your empire created under the same circumstances, which i hope is checked by Cari, then yes as far as i am concerned the matter is laid to rest and you will hear no more from me.

Well, i had never looked to see if Seeker plays on the MV. Since you don't participate in the MV Seeker i don't see why your weighing into the issue.

it would be like me going over to I-mod and telling those guys my thoughts on how they should create a mod.

I'd think they would say, you don't participate in this activity, Frak off. Don't you?

I still don't see the connection with playing the game and posting on the metaverse has to do with my experience with the game but anyways i'll gladly move on. I think everyone over-reacted a little over this (By everyone i do mean myself included).

anyone seen that movie called Wall-E? only just saw it a short while ago and I must say it's probably the most entertaining children's movie I have seen yet. Graphics are definately improving on disney's end. why do they try make things so real? when it's ment to look fake??

NOOOOooo Loup..  MADAGASCAR 2 coming to a theater near you. In November though. I can't wait, I'm gonna force the kids to go. lol

I hear Wall-E was a bit boring so maybe you didn't miss too much.

My first participation as an accomplice thread jacker... I feel icky.

They were lemurs and the song was... OK I'll spare you.

I think it began with Toy Story, but using celebrity voices is what made the kid movies stand out to adults too.

Those movies are fine until the singing, Then my son and I go "damn lets put in Starship troopers or Batman"