Not directed at anyone except pirates: You are the reason we have to deal with this crap. This is such utter misinformed horsecrap. Copy protection DOES NOT STOP PIRACY! Most games are online for download on or before release date. The software companies are not stupid. They know this. In fact someone I know who works for a well known software company has said that these days it's more and more about control (just what else will this Securom check be doing?) and also that stores like WalMart prefer product with copy protection. In fact you should THANK the pirates actually, since if you ever encounter a game, as I have on many occasions, that WILL NOT RUN due to the copy protection not liking your system (Neverwinter Nights for example), you can thank PIRATES for enabling you to actually run the software you've paid for. After all, you won't be able to return it for a refund as you've opened it and could copied this COPY PROTECTED PRODUCT.If pirates were REALLY to blame, Gal Civ II wouldn't have sold a zillion copies. In my experience, Gal Civ II is one of the most pirated games I've ever seen. I see it pop up all over the place. And yet it still sold by the bucket load. I am so sick of this overly simplistic antipiracy nonsense. There is far more too it than just "GRRR! PIRATES!"Be nice if Valve could get Spore on Steam. About the only games I buy anymore are electronically purchased. I don't pirate the games that you only get in the stores. I simply don't bother with them. The key to beating piracy is just make it less hassle to BUY the games. With Steam it's now EASIER to BUY a game than pirate it. You have to download anyway, but you don't have to muck about with cracks etc... I've bought a lot of games on Steam that I simply wouldn't have bought had it been on disk only, because I prefer not to have drivers secretly installed system.But yeah, far easier to blame the pirates than criticize the blinkered thinking of an entire industry.Pay for your damn games. You filthy pirate. You act like piracy isn't wrong. Its stealing. You are a theif if you download a game for free that a programmer slaved to produce hour after hour to make. Its no different than stealing someone's lunch, stealing someone's wallet, etc. Also, has it dawned on you that galcivs sold a ton of games because its good? Not because it had minimal to no anti piracy in it? "OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spore is awesome BUT I WILL NOT BUY THIS GAME BECAUSE HEAVEN FORBID I HAVE TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET EVERY 10 DAYS!!!! Never mind the fact that you would almost certainly want to connect to the internet anyway to download the inevitable patches for it. Fine don't buy it. Your loss.
Ok, so first let me start off with saying I just got done playing the sins demo, loved it, going to buy it this weekend. I was just reading these posts chuckling at all the pirate and privacy bashing. But this post kinda set me off so i had to register and post. I consider myself a pirate, yep thats right everyone, FLAME ON!!!
Now seriously, I know there are MANY people out there, who pirate like I do. Here are some examples of games I have gotten off a torrent.
Might and magic 6 - Where the HELL are you going to find a copy to buy these days?!? and if you do finally find it, its what 5 bucks? I rest my case here.
Dungeon Keeper 2 - Bought this game WAY back in the day and loved it, unfortunatly over the years i have no idea where the disk went, so I went and downloaded it. still play from time to time. nothing immoral here, I paid for the damn game in the past and you cant find it anyplace, same as MM6
Quake 1 - Same as the above post, but the only reason i went and downloaded it was i saw all the crazy enhanced new engines out there for it, Quake 1 now looks better than half life 2 with some engines. its nuts.
Heroes of Might and Magic 5 - Downloaded it, played for about a day and loved it. What did I do? I went and bought it AND an expansion for it.
Arcanum - again, you tell me where to find a copy of this and i will so buy it out of sheer respect for such a good game.
Notice the games here, all old except one, and i went and bought that game and an expansion for it. I will never pirate a new game like sins, mass effect, or the witcher (I considered the witcher so i could see if i liked it, but decided hell no Bioware is one of my favorite developers waaaaaay to much respect for them. They hold a place in my heart from all the great games they have put out)
Closing argument? You drop the term "pirate" and encompass everyone that could ever be described as one as some cheap bastard who either gets kicks from getting things for free, is trying to "stick it to the man", or is just cheap as hell. Its really not true, go take a stroll over to some of the torrent sites out there and read some of the descriptions, alot of them for games will even say "If you like this game go buy it, support your company!"
someone didnt do their research...