Graphic bug: ship modules tilted/missing

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Hi all!

First of all, congratulations for the release.

I happen to have a big problem/bug with the ship graphics: it is as if many angles of connections between parts of the ships are off. For instance, all colony modules are tilted/rotated with respect to the ship axis. Some ships look even stranger, like mining ships without mining modules (the Krinn mining ship looks like, well, a segment).

Apart from this (!?!) there is still the usual "crash to desktop" problem issuing when another application (tipically the firewall, or the windows update nightmare) reclaims the monitor and I am playing ToA in fullscreen. As I try to get back to ToA I get the CTD.

While I can survive the second problem, although with a curse here and then, the first makes my game experience worse than with the beta. Please take care of this. Thank you in advance.
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Here is a screenshot:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8034/skewedma1.jpg


Please ignore the following post. For some reason I DO NOT get the edit option for the latest of my posts, which means that I cannot edit the mentioned one without adding a new one. I am getting rather annoyed with strange bugs related to Stardocks...
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Actually is not that I do not get the edit option for my last post. I do get the edit option only for the post just before my last, and not for the others. Wierd.

Anyway, more screenies:

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2048/skewed3hq9.jpg
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Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
After playing a bit, one more observations: new ship design behave well, so the problem is only on the saved designs. Should I try to reinstall?
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
That's *really* odd. A reinstall would be a good idea. Make sure everything gets deleted, including the TA folder under My Docs\My Games. If it still persists after that, post your debug.err.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

A great deal of the modles in Twilight were either re-textured or tuched up, alot of this included fixing some of the more sloppy hard pints, sadly this could through off some ship designs from DL or DA, I tryed to compinsate for this by makeing sure all the template ships were still good to go.

If you really love a older design you can probobly fix it by just re rotateing the peaces.

Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
After thinking about this for a sec, I realized, if you are getting this on Core ships, it is most likely a install problem. Some how twilight must be looking in the DA Folder for the ships, the quickist way to fix this would probobly be to re-install. I will look into it when I get back to the office.
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The Story so far:

I got version 1.90 of TA with the aforementioned problem, Stardock Central updated to 1.91 but the problem persisted.

I did a first reinstall - uninstalling through Central but without cleaning the files on the drive - to no avail.

I was about to do a second reinstall, cleaning up the directory in My Games as suggested per Kryo, when I gave Dark Avatar and Dread Lords a try and noticed the same problem there, too. So I reinstalled everything from scratch (deleting the folders in my games too), but the problem remained.

Somehow everything worked fine with the beta. But last week I reinstalled WinXP with the service pack 3, and then installed the release version of the game. From then on it has been like this.

New screenies:

Dread Lords

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7972/gc2oy3.jpg


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7900/gc2bep5.jpg


Dark Avatar

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6629/gc2dain2.jpg
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Here is the debug.err (with the omission of the privacy bits)

Debug Message: Version v1.91 Twilight of the Arnor last updated on: Thu May 1 12:15:51 2008
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System Info
Time: 5/3/2008, 15:35:37
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Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Somehow everything worked fine with the beta. But last week I reinstalled WinXP with the service pack 3, and then installed the release version of the game. From then on it has been like this.
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Lose SP3. I have problems with it using MCE. I don't think M$ has officaly releast it yet. Rumor has it ... it is delayed do to compatability problems. My Nero7 will not install right with SP3 and I have other problems as well.

Edit: I found a site that posted SP3 is due out in early June.
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I don't have any (other?) problems with SP3 so far. It has been officially released, albeit for OEM. The game RUNS, and my other games run flawlessly. I would be surprised if SP3 would be responsible for this glitch. Anyhow I will keep it in mind, and hope that the guys at Stardock do, too ;)
Reply #13 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
OK, so as far as I can tell, the problem is that you are somehow useing the ship configs, from DA, but using the modlels form TofA, or Vise-Versa. The problem comes from the fact that We went through and fixed the more wonky hardpoints in the old modles, and added a few. We also moved some of the structures around, so that they have differant names now.

The easyest way to fix it, would be to re-install a fresh copy, but before you do that, try moveing your Twilight Folder out of the My Games folder, if there are old configs in their, they might be getting read first, and messing up the new designs. I am pritty sure that it is a install problem however, and a fresh install should make it go away.