Experience with 6b

My Experience with Beta 6b so far. Every KI is on genius difficulty level in a huge universe:

- The Humans and Torians colonise every game very well and very very fast. The Drengins and Yor dont. I watched the Drengins. They have had enough colonization ships but dont used them. Later they seem to wake up, but its too late. When the Humans and Torians had about 40 Colonies, Drengin and Yor have about 12.

- the Iconian Refuge seem to take 100% taxes. On most of their 25 Planets their approvel ist only 1%. On their Home Planet everything is fine cause they builded there lots of their very good approval buildings. But because of their taxes the most of their planets have nearly no population and their economy and everything else is completly broken.

- I traded for the "Barren World colonisation" tech with a minor Race. But after that I cannot colonize barren worlds at all.

- Many races seem to have problems to build up a millitary force. Mostly because a lack of weapon techs. They dont researche them for a long time. This changed, when I traded the basictechs to them (spaceweapons for example).

- The Torians had for long time the best Weapon Techs and have the largest Empire. But they dont builded a single millitary ship for a long time. This changed later, and know they are the millitary leader as expected.

- some of the minor Races declared many senseless Wars to the mainraces, which were on the other edge of the universe. Beside this suicidal behavior, thex cannot reach each other.

- I saw a Drengin Fleet with very good guns. But they have no gun technology at all. So far as I know I am the only Race using this weapon category. The Drengin in this game normally use missiles. Never saw this Fleet again, so its a mystery how they get this. 

As conclusion I can say that in this beta in the beginnig some KIs seems to be broken. But when they survive long enough they went to behave more in a normal, expected, way.

The last games with the last two Betas, in every game the Torians and Humans have the largest Empires, cause they colonise much faster than everybody else.

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I was just going to post something similar. The Drengin/Korath/Yor AI seems to be a very slow starter now.
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If you see a drengin fleet with guns, they're almost always super dominator corvettes.
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I traded for the "Barren World colonisation" tech with a minor Race. But after that I cannot colonize barren worlds at all.
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Do you have Advanced Colonization, which is a prerequisite for the specific colonization techs? I may be wrong, but while you can trade for any tech, I don't think they are useable until you research or trade for all earlier prerequisite techs.
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I may be wrong, but while you can trade for any tech, I don't think they are useable until you research or trade for all earlier prerequisite techs.
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Not true, take a look at the weapons / defence techs. As soon as you trade for one, you can use it and 'skip' all the previous research.
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In this case I first thought the same and tested this. But also after developing "advanced colonization", it doesent worked. So I think its a little bug. Perhaps also with other techs. But with this tech it was very easy to recognize while gaming.

If you see a drengin fleet with guns, they're almost always super dominator corvettes.
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Okay. You catched me. I do not know anything about "super dominator corvettes". Could be an explanation.
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I just played my first beta; latest build downloaded 4-11 - here are my impressions so far - purely subjective.

Small map - common stars abundant everything else, genius AI, force advanced algorythms, crippling difficulty.

Torians, Korath, Drengin, Krynn and Arceans - I play as the Korx.

Drengin - fast colony rush lots of colonys build good fleets. A little passive but did declare war on very weak Altarians

Korath - very fast colony rush lots of colonies very aggressive to non evil civs. Researching military trees only.

Torians - very fast colony rush medium number of colonies huge military from the start - very fast tech development. Aggresive - declared war on Drengin Arceans and Korath

Krynn - medium colony rush - low medium number of colonies - HUGE Technology sprint - aggressive to weaker opponents - declared war on Arceans

Arceans - crippled in colony rush phase - only 3 planets. Stuck in a semi isolated corner of map. Poor tech research, but very goood at weapons, hulls and defense techs. Attacked numerous times and held their own - never lost a planet so far. Speed nerf seems to really affect them if they don't have a lot of nearby planets - they take forever to get their research going.

Various weopons trees followed by all civs- most are following mass drivers - but one has missiles too and another 2 have beam. They are changing as the threats change.

Korath are building ascension bases, Torians are going for influence - lots of influence starbases - Drengin seem undecided, but are building a large fleet - Krynn are seeming to go along research victory tree. Arceans are just content to survive.

Korath seem a little bit slow with their spore ships - saw one hesitate when approaching an undefended planet then turn away - it came back but only after the Torians built a colony hull to prevent it from attacking.

Korx are awesome when played in character with economic and trade bonuses. I had a tough time at first wit my bc flow- got 8 planets in the rush and 2 more small ones eventually through flipping so far. Once my planets got above 3 or 4 billion pop - my economy has been going gang busters. Got research treaties with most all other civs - so have concentrated on building econ buildings, morale and factories. The Festival of Capitalism and Recruiting Centers are really working well.

I am able to pretty much build basic ships then upgrade them very cheaply. Not the best militarily - but holding just over 100 so no one attacks me. Have trade routes everywhere - with super trade modules on starbases - trade is almost 33% of my income now. Behind in weapons, but with the Galactic Bazaar built early - I am able to tech trade very well and get good deals.

Not sure if I'll go for Influence or Ascension victory yet. Conquest is out of the question - too far behind in weopons techs and such - Research victory will be a race with the Krynn. I am competing with the Torians in Influence - but their aggresiveness has helped me there as the Drengins and Korath keep slapping them down.

Lots of room for improvement in Ai - but overall peetty damn good for a beta that has not been really balanced yet.

Unique tech trees really rock - I think that the secret will be to play each race differently per their 'character' - it is going to be fun learning all the ways each excels.