Jagged edge event EXTREMELY overpowered

They're called Mega Events for a reason. And 18 planets is nothing

I like this event. I don't necessarily concentrate on getting my planets back --only the good ones. I take advantage of the opportunity to seize high PQ planets in strategic locations all over the galaxy without getting into a war with a major race.

Here's the problem with the JE event, both in a matter of flavor and realism: How the heck do these people manage to stay unified? Better yet, how do they take the planets that have massive, loyal, and happy populations with massive fleets and warships in orbit? How do they passify a population that is also entirely registered to fight an invading force, let alone a thieves and assasins?

I wouldn't have a problem with JE, personally, if this could be explained...

I haven't had this happen to me thank god, but I do think based off of what I have heard of it that the event is way too powerful.

A game loses all of it's fun when completely random events can steal everything you've worked so hard for. I don't like the peackeepers either.

It's called Jagged Knife.

It's a Mega Event, it did it's job, if you don't like it than turn the option off.

As others have said it's a mega event, they're supposed to be overpowered. If you don't want to deal with radical, game altering events you have the option to turn them off.

In all fairness, two things. One it, at least in DA, and I was under the impression it was the same for TA, that it affects ALL races, not just non-evil. Two, I've had the JE event SAVE me from my destruction. It's all in the eye of the beholder my friends. Look it at this way, now with the JE, all the other AI are basically screwed, and you, the intelligent, enduring, and enterprising Player, can now invade all the worlds that were previously held by your glorious neighbors without even a single diplomatic raising his hand in protest. Quite wonderful really.

but can't they be good?

They're all bad...

LOL, in general, the Mini Events (such as Economic Prosperity) are good enough and strong enough to allow for players to compete with the AI. That being said, in general, Mega Events are ONLY suggested for veteran players or players that specifically seek a challenging game. I strongly suggest turning them off at start up if you are even remotely concerned about being able to deal with them. Also, as a final word on it, there are certain triggers for the Mega Events....turtling in a corner (metaphorically) seems to bring about the Jagged Knife more often than not; just like a lot of happy go-lucky races seems to spore the Dread Lords event, and lots of money and no spies brings about the Spy Event. Be Prepared.

The JK does have an upside to it. There is now an entire new empire in the galaxy waiting for you to declare war on...and it won't affect any of your prior alliances/treaties. Reclaim your worlds and take you pier's ex-worlds.

To each Mega Event you can find a silver lining if you look hard enough.

5 speed max event? Great event to happen when you're the Arceans in TA.

Spy Event? Laugh all the way to the bank if you had CE's installed and your opponents didn't.

Super Pirates/Peacekeepers. Great event for the 'little guy' to slingshot ahead by devoting his time to research while the 'big guy' gets all his hard earned ships 'sploded.

Dreadlords. As mentioned by another, free planet to the first one there while it's undefended.


So it may seem as it's always a kick to you when it happens, but if you look at these events in the right light in the right situation...they can be a turning point in the GOOD.

I just wanted to stop by and add the mandatory post since I see no one else had the time to do it yet. So here it is:

Turn off mega-events.

There, it is said.

Reply 4 & 5 didn't have that stated?

I'm not saying all mega events are over powered just this one.

So I won't just "turn" it off tank your very much.

You seem to be missing the point that they are supposed to be over powered, and were designed to be such. A few feel short of that goal, such as the DL event, but that doesn't mean the successful ones should be thrown under the bus.

Ah, indeed they did. Normally it is done by reply #3, which is about how far I actually read. My fault. Well, in any case it can never be said enough anyhow! Especially on this topic, and its previous 12 incarnations...

That's true, but you've misinterpreted what that means. Many mega events are underpowered, the JK event is what mega events should look like. The whole idea is for a radical, game altering change that abruptly makes the game very different (and ideally more challenging). Mega events are there for veteran players who get bored once the gradual climb to victory has reached a certain point and want something to shake up the game. They're not supposed to be helpful and they're not supposed to be balanced.

I feel an urging to resurrect my Mega Events explanation for new players thread...

It couldn't hurt, that was a great post.

Well said, I've had the same experience.



Is there a reasonably authoritative list of mega-event triggers anywhere? I've worked some out (in the case of the JK, simply through having them apepar in every game until I stopped turtling), but have no idea what causes plague, for example, and have had little luck trying to get peacekeepers to appear in any of my games. Also, my games of TA seem to have fewer mega-events than my games of DA, but that might just be my imagination.

Finally, and I know it's flogging a dead horse, but I would still love to be able to spy on the JK. With their insane soldiering rating (TA game with reasonably advanced Drengin and Yor = a lot of combined soldiering bonuses on top of reguler techs) I wouldn't mind being able to get a little intel before sacrificing several billion former pacifists.