Mwah ha ha, my plan to make you all hate and despise me is working perfectly

Hi!

Thank you for confirming my initiall thoughts! Tech victory on fast just needs so much money to achieve.

To share my piece of knowledge: I ran several testbeds with DA 1.8 and cheats on, just to determine the expected number of habitable planets. Secondary planets taken off there should be 16 +/- 4 planets, about a third of them extreme. So you can't expect much money from the pop just from your share of planets. But if you conquer their planets, you "waste" your pop that should make money instead war.

I see two posible solutions to money problem. I just don't know which one will be better. Need to do some more testing...

BR, Iztok

Yeah, out of four tries, I completed one game on the weekend. Money is just so unbelievably tight with so few colonies available.

Hmm, gonna be one interesting round.

well my crappy scores Ive got so far don't seem so bad with others having the same problems. Just another reason I like playing the MVL games. Random settings I would never pick myself, makes it interesting )

Yeah, seeing Wyndstar barely passing the 10k score mark, even failing to do so in one game definitely was cause for much relief on my part.

I think you've got to have a good starting position on this one. I had a +700% research square on my homeworld and got 6-7 worlds other than my homeworld (2 of which were toxic and 1 of which was radiated). That gave me the population level I needed to fund the research. Probably just a random thing; whoever gets the best starts, wins. I'm not actually at all sure 0 year is possible. I'll be very impressed if someone can pull that one off.

i've got it down where I can support my economy just fine, its keeping the AI away that i'm having issues with; I really need a Library and be all by myself in a corner

You've used the Korx successfully these last couple of games? That is incredibly cool. I would not have thought them a viable choice. If you don't mind, are you actually using trade for the income? Or just for the diplomatic benefits? Or is it because you can build the economic capital really early?

Yes.

~ Wyndstar

I'm having a hard time as well. This is a tough one for me, but it's very interesting. Unfortunately, I'm rather buzy right now and don't have a whole lot of time to play. I hope I can post something decent before the deadline.

I've just received a PM from a MVL member and he expressed concern about the use of race customization in DA that is achieved via editing of the raceconfig file that cannot be achieved from within the game.

I know that this topic has been discussed in regards to general use for metaverse games and the conclusion that I remember was that there is nothing wrong with this. For reference here is the thread where I remember the topic being discussed.

How do you make custom races Metaverse compatible?

However this has not been explicitly discussed within the context of MVL games. After all we do specify many settings and aspects of the game that people need to abide by over and above simply being legal MV games. In any case I believe that the concerns expressed by any individual member of the MVL are very important and not to be treated lightly whether you agree with them or not. I'm sure Silver and many others in the league will echo this belief.

However, although this hasn't been expressly discussed I believe that games have been played in this manner virtually since the inception of the league and so any change to this would require a new rule to be adopted by the league.

Therefore the current round thread isn't the place to discuss this and so I'll move this to the rules thread for futher discussion. But please reference and quickly read through the above link so that you have at lesat some background on the issue.

Also I would ask that people take a moment and respond to how they feel about this issue either pro or con. After all if you would like others to give your concerns the proper weight they deserve then it behooves you to treat the concerns of others seriously as well. I thank the league for their patience on this issue.

Certainly everyone should understand that this will in no way affect the current round. Any decision made will apply to future rounds only.

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