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G.R.O.S.S. communication thread.

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G.R.O.S.S. communication thread.

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Cringe in fear do gooders. The G.R.O.S.S. (Get Rid Of Slimy alienS) empire is now formed. In less than an hour we have jumped 95 other Pacifist Doo Gooder victim empires and lept into 40th out of 135 ranked.

We are an evil empire bent on controlling everything and showing all the other empires out there who's boss. US. Are you listening Euro-"Oh lets let everyone be a senator and give em a vote doo gooder democracy alliance?" We come for you.

For a limited time, (untill I decide otherwise) 5 Pure Evil games, (or just impressing me with your game evilness) submitted will get you a Senatorship. Later, being the evil empire pyramid scheme we are, it will take 10. Of course, being the evil empire we are, that gives you no benefits, no pay, but all the alien carnage you crave most.

Now we do realize that sometimes, you just have to fake being good. You sometimes just have to infiltrate that pacifist party. We understand. But we aren't a kinder gentler empire and don't let their pacifism go to your head. And just sometimes, you gotta let the Aliens live (where else would you find slaves for the heavy metal lava mines?)

In the future, we shall update each other in the empire via this thread, brag of our conquests, drink blood wine, and generally just poke fun (creatively and humorously) at those players whom we find to be too goody goodyish.

Our mottos.

G.R.O.S.S. Where being good is merely a temporary strategy.

Just win baby.

Here's your ration of skin you do gooder wimp Drengin slime. Now get back to work

EBZeroMatrix you have been made a senator.

I repeat. Cringe in fear, we come for you.





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Reply #476 from Stardock Forums Top
The only fairly large hit we have left to take is mine. They are almost into my score range now. Alot of our players with lower scores than mine submitted a game and already took their hits. I will lose about 4000 points. But that is ok. I have a game almost ready to go. So that will cushion the blow a bit.
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Reply #478 from Stardock Forums Top
From the E-A thread



215 by Citizen Kiwi Greg - 5/28/2003 3:49:46 PM

Rob posting here as a proxy for Pontius





#216 by Veteran Gerakken - 5/28/2003 4:08:29 PM

Bah, if the boss is stooping to that, then I'll call Pontius on it myself. The way I see it, if you are going to raid the other guy's thread, at least do it yourself. I do! Consider yourself raided, worthy Old World opponents.

Actually I did Gerakken: Greg then gave me 2 to one on a $10 bet that I couldn't keep from posting there. I took him up on it. So you guy's post whereever and whenevery you please. I am going to win this bet.




Reply #480 from Stardock Forums Top
Ok, finished my 1.04 masochistic game.
Took over everything but a planet or two and popped up
to about 7 trillion.

Tech victory: 2030
Alliance victory: 5020
Military victory: 6400

Earlier tech victory with 5trillion rather then
7 trillion and a lot less leasing(to see if leasing
was having a huge negative effect): 1700

All games were finished before 2195, the military
was the slowest by a few months(nov 2194).

As a tiny rare that is done very fast with no
pop is worth over 3000, this could be an interesting
balance between maps, I approve!




Reply #481 from Stardock Forums Top
Looks like the recalc might be done, we jumped
back to 5th, and we are not that far from 3rd :)

Reply #482 from Stardock Forums Top
Ok, finished my 1.04 masochistic game.
Took over everything but a planet or two and popped up
to about 7 trillion.

Tech victory: 2030
Alliance victory: 5020
Military victory: 6400


So the military is now the way to go? Hmmm interesting. How far were you through the tech tree when you took military?
Reply #483 from Stardock Forums Top
Im not sure yet, and I was a few research points
from final frontier(with everything else done)

It will take a few more games for me to figure out
what the scoring system is rewarding.

A tech victory might be worthwhile if u go straight
for it. I dunno.
Reply #484 from Stardock Forums Top
Ok, I think I have it.

Tech victory is worthless on gigantic :)

I imagine tech victory is worth more on progressively
smaller maps.

But dont do it on gigantic, thats for sure(makes sense).
Reply #485 from Stardock Forums Top
Hey. Well done Staffa. We're only a couple thousand out of third. Looks like the redo absolutely killed those that were milking 1.02.
What, I do is write down the stats from the my empire screen, then I write down the stats from the final screen too. Of course that will all change with 1.04 so I'll be doing it again.

And personally, I think a tech win vs a military win given the same timeframe and the same technology discovered except the last one ought to score about the same. Cuz when you get down to it, you've got it won. The only thing is which one you choose. And you can get a military win without firing a shot.

What I'd like to see is a bloodlust option. All culture flipping turned off for the game not just the victory condition. And i'd like it be scored for the difficult game it would be. Now that would be cool.
Reply #486 from Stardock Forums Top
So on Gigantic go ahead and just flip the last planet and take your military win. Interesting. Wonder if that tweak would apply to 1.035 games submitted now? Cuz I do have a choice.
Reply #487 from Stardock Forums Top
Dont make a habit of playing games in 1.035 and
then submitting them in 1.04, thats beyond cheese
and into cheating land. Once for the game your
currently on, i wouldnt do it cause it smells bad to me
but i suppose I could forgive u once.

My alliance victory was with 1 AI, im curious what
it would have been worth with multiple AI's, I think
that it should be worth less as you did not remove
the enemy AI's, but some argue that actually getting
into an alliance with multiple AI's is difficult, so
who knows how it is scored.

Reply #488 from Stardock Forums Top
Dont make a habit of playing games in 1.035 and
then submitting them in 1.04, thats beyond cheese
and into cheating land. Once for the game your
currently on, i wouldnt do it cause it smells bad to me
but i suppose I could forgive u once.


Actually Games won't submit cross version. I'm submitting it in 1.35. Then starting a new game after I load 1.04. But I wonder if they tweaked the score formula for 1.35 as well or just applied an adjustment at the end. I'm thinking they probably are applying a version adjustment at the end So I'm gonna take my beyond human soon as I can get it and Then DL 1.04. HEHE I'm gonna like 1.04 better. Conquest is always the more fun. HEHEHE.
Reply #490 from Stardock Forums Top
Hi Pontius, I think the scoring from previous versions is adjust in the metaverse. Consider when I submitted my 1.02 score at 2000 points shown in game, whereas in the metaverase it was 500 points. Therefore i think all scores are automatically converted to make use of the current scoring algorithm, which may even be version independant.

Kudos to Staffa for the scoring research! But I'm curious about military vs tech win, was there any major difference between the two, ie time, population, number of AIs left, tech level, etc? I found in previous games that if you have AI planet left, it doesn't matter if the win is cultural, tech, or military; the score is roughly the same (ver 1.02, alas).
Reply #491 from Stardock Forums Top
There was no real difference, pop and tech were the same
only difference was I went out a few turns later
with military and got 6480 as opposed to a few
turns earlier with tech and a score of 2000.
Reply #492 from Stardock Forums Top
Good job with the win, Staffa.

I was going to warn you to prepare an AAR and keep a save, just in the case TPTB wants to know how you managed to beat maso. But Frogboy got himself a 1.04 maso tiny win I see, rocketing him up to Top 25. :)
Reply #493 from Stardock Forums Top
Hey raychua, i noticed frogs win too.

You remember how he asked me to send my tiny maso
win from 1.035?

When i refinished the game on 1.04 just to see what
it was worth, it was worth 3245. Considering he has
the same align and the exact same score as me, I have
the feeling he just submitted my game under his name
using 1.04.

I just finished another tiny maso rare starting from
1.04. Was quite fun, did even better. I did email
2nd maso win to frog just incase he wants to see it.

And in an attempt to get him to remove that tiny maso
win thats worth 102(which he got 3245 for)

The tiny rare maso 1.04 was hella fun, very difficult.


Reply #494 from Stardock Forums Top
Whoa, just finished reading the flame war happening over at the other side. The PQ nerfing reaction wasn't quite this bad.

The "I could beat Maso in my sleep" wasn't too smart :)

Personally, I feel that Brad should have nerfed only Genius and Incredible leaving Intelligent and below players to use the TG spinning strat if they choose. That strat was not cheesy, nor a game breaker for me, just rather overpowered.
Reply #495 from Stardock Forums Top
OK I submitted my last 1.035 game I'm gonna and now I'm downloading 1.04. There is definitely an adjustment penalty. It was to be nearly a 5000 pointer but posted as a little over 2. But that's ok. Better to do that than waste an almost finished game.

We are now in 4th place within spitting distance of 3rd. Well done everyone.

That 1.02 killed those empires who milked it. I had no games under that version hehe.
Reply #496 from Stardock Forums Top
Whoa, just finished reading the flame war happening over at the other side. The PQ nerfing reaction wasn't quite this bad.



So avoid it and join G.R.O.S.S. Ray. HEHE come on you know you want out of that stale old empire and into a happening one. :)
Reply #497 from Stardock Forums Top
Personally, I feel that Brad should have nerfed only Genius and Incredible leaving Intelligent and below players to use the TG spinning strat if they choose. That strat was not cheesy, nor a game breaker for me, just rather overpowered.


I don't know why everyone's so worked up over that. It's just a simple change in strategy is all Ray. Just a simple illustration of basic economics. When a good is in high demand by the aliens and short supply, it pays to lease it and sell to the aliens at a profit. Now that it is not in as high demand, it may pay now not to build or lease but to trade for it.

Of course the truly powerful ones, I'm leasing and keeping. They aren't meant for trade. :)
Reply #498 from Stardock Forums Top
I really like your empire's irrelevant slapstick approach and I think you guys are having loads of fun empiring as well as gaming.

But I like the fact that my empire is invite only and I'm trying to build up my own empire's persona in attracting serious and good players who are willing to contribute to the game and the forum.

Besides, what's the fun if all the regulars are in one empire? ;)
Reply #499 from Stardock Forums Top
Ya, don't mind us madmen, Ray. Besides, I did have fun raiding the other guy's threads today to warn them that the Reaper was coming. Well, the Reaper came alright! But I will give some small advice: the scores shouldn't matter much when recruiting. Even a lackluster finisher like myself is worth ten times my weight when it comes to waging the almighty empire's war of words! :HOT:

Don't mess with GROSS, or the newly installed Super Space Distortion Cannon (SSDC, for short) will cook ya! ;) Oh, and boss, it looks like we hit warp 8. Just don't ask for warp 9 too soon. The warp coils can't take it, she'll break apart!