MOO3 reviewed in PC Gamer - score 57

Good, they scored that one accuratley, of cuorse they WAITED until the game had sold a bajillion units.

~SDC~

yay! schadenfreude! wheee!

cheers

h

>yay! schadenfreude! wheee!
>cheers
>h

I think it's okay for people to get kicks out of a game receiving a bad review if they themselves were burned by the poor quality of the game.

yeah, i guess so. but IMHO it doesn't really have a place on this board.

i didn't buy moo3, mostly because all the user reviews were terrible. but one of my friends got burned.

cheers

h

Well to put things in perspective, PC Gamer gave The Corporate Machine a 62%. That reviewer is currently the one doing the review for IGN, hopefully he'll like GalCiv better. But at the risk of being outspoken, I felt that TCM deserved a much higher score than 62%.

~SDC~

Frogboy,

I agree about TCM. It is not much to look at but it one hard game to even hope to win.

Btw, will there ever be an update for more product line to DL?

Thanks

Toothy

MOO3 is a Joke dont buy this ... I have a copy... and this is a very poor game..... GALCIV is better... MOO2 is better....

MOO3 was really really really disapointing. After all that time and deplays, they made a midicore game that doesn't deserve to be called MOO3 at all. Ugly graphic (even by MOO standard) unbalanced game play, stupid AI, micro-management that tests human limits. Terrible ship design features/combat. List goes on and on. And to make things even worse, it's buggy as hell. The worst $50 I've ever spent.

"Good, they scored that one accuratley, of cuorse they WAITED until the game had sold a bajillion units."

I'd prefer that to a certain Australian games magazine that "Reviews" early beta copies of games!

~SDC~

PC magazine just gave moo3 a 4/5 rating. Seems the reviews are all over the board for poor moo3. I'm worried that this might drag down the devs into supporting it less .I think moo3 is an awesome game, the ai really needs fixing but its whole premise with taskforces (like modern navies use, need a variety of ships for full support in PD, missiles, ecm & counter-ecm, LR and SR weapon systems, carriers), different aliens that have large differences in how they operate (some eat minerals, others eat population), ability to design your ships and watch/play the fights in real time and direct your ground invasions, etc is a far more compelling space empire game than galciv with its chess-like play. What I've played of galciv makes me think there might be a good game there buts it has almost no feeling of realism, reminds me more of good shareware than anything.. (:(

I played MOO3 and was very disappointed. Interface was absolutely terrible. Stuff buried in it and hard to find. It is NOT a hard game to win. In fact, it is the EASIEST game to win I've ever encountered. It almost literally plays itself. Like GalCiv, it's all about planet grab, but unlike GalCiv, MOO3's AI doesn't do much. Of the 21 people that I know bought the game, only one still has it and the other 20 returned it to the store. And the one that has it doesn't play it. He's playing GalCiv. LOL

Salamander, GalCiv is NOT MOO3. Criticizing other games will not make you feel better about the MOO3 debacle. How do you mean GalCiv has less "realism" than MOO3? It's a game about space aliens for crying out loud. I for one prefer strategy over hitting the turn button.

Is it just me, or does it seem like all of the bitter people from the MOO3 boards are migrating over here? Sorry if this comes across like a flame, but I would hate to see the MOO3 fanboys ruin this forum like they did their own.

~SDC~

Hi ya'll. I hope that this forum doesn't become the environment of flamers. That's why I don't post on the MOO3 board. I have actually started enjoying MOO3 with the addition of some great user-created mods. However, I find it difficult to compare MOO3 and GalCiv. I certainly enjoy GalCiv. I play it much more than I do any of my other games. This game really shines IMO. This game hooks me and and won't let me go.

I just hope the GalCiv/MOO3 debate will just stop. Besides any common theme shared with many space strategy games...they all offer a different experience for me.

Peace,
Gary

"Ugly graphic (even by MOO standard)"

I played MoO1 a few weeks ago, and MoO2 just before that. I have to say - that's *so* not true.

Salamander,

GalCiv is quite a deep game - it has several axes of interaction with the AI (from diplomacy to extortion to warfare) and it has AIs that react to what you're doing. These are good things. Sure, you can't design your ships and the combat is abstracted, but it has all the elements a good 4X game should have (I don't count multiplayer as a "should").

~SDC~

I'm just responding to the moo3 trashing, I didnt start the post. I'm extremely happy with moo3, I have no need to feel better about it. The upcoming patch looks like it will address everyones concerns, I'm sure the main reason it is taking so long is moo3 is such an immensely more complex game than something like galciv which I could have made on my vic20 back in the day (without the cutscenes which are repetive and annoying after the first couple times anyway).

Its the bitter galciv people that keep bashing moo3 and I'm just tired of it. They are immensely different games so just STFU pls.

Only 2 things that made me return my 2 copies of MOO3: the text fonts were bad for a text-based game (it is really....) and the governors took over too much. I would have played this if the text fonts were easier read, and the governor was more what GalCiv's are...

I love TCM The update makes it not work right though so I had to reinstall it clean to get rid of the "patch"
Other then that it's great.

Salamander,

Now you're just trolling. Make it on a Vic20? Please. Try to do the AI alone, and it'd explode.

(frankly, I don't see the attraction to zero-sum trashing: "They trashed my favorite game, so I'll trash theirs!" and the like. Seems like a losing proposition)

~SDC~

Uhm,. I call bullshit on that one!

Moo3 is a laughing stock of a game. A sack of complete garbage. Few strategy games are worse.

The base design is horrible. I quote from one of the developers:



LOL. Now that my friends is horrible, insanely bad, god aweful game design. Game design by morons for morons.

I agree with the low rating for MOO3. It is a pathetic attempt at a 4 or 5x game. When I bought it was excited about the complexity, I thought that micromanaging and planning of deep stratagy was the focus of the game. How wrong I was!! The game is designed in such a way that you can't lose. My favorite example was after playing the game 4 times and winning each game easily. I decided to set it to impossible, after 350 turns I won by becoming president of the Anataran Council... Just like that, and I only colonized about 20 planets. The AI is insane, my allies the Nomo who showered me with gifts and cash suddenly declared war on me and only attacked an outpost colony with outdated ships. After 5 turns they asked for peace, then 2 turns later they asked me to join them in an Alliance against the Sakkra, well I fullfiled my end of the Alliance, I went to war but after the first engagement the Nomo and the Sakkra made peace, then a few turns later they were in an Alliance against me! The point is, the game sucks, there is no tension, you can't lose, you never go bankrupt the Viceroys run your empire and all you have to do is watch and win. So I traded it in for GalCiv and I've been happy ever since. I was so shocked that the AI in GalCiv gave me a challenge, even more shocking was the fact that my Allies remained true. Fantastic game and worth every penny!!

Thanks for a great game guys!

~SDC~

We aren't bitter. I'm happy as hell I bought the piece of crap MOO3, I returned it, found out about two excellent 4x games, Space Empires IV and Galactic Civilizations, and moved on. Heck, Brad should thank QS, I've seen quite a few people disappointed in the crap game MOO3, move to Gal Civ probably boosting sales quite a bit.

If you werent bitter you wouldnt keep flaming. The AI for moo3 is being fixed, it was way too hard so they overdid the toning down just before release. Even still its got so much more feel: taskforces that keep me awake night figuring out specs of the all ship loadouts for taking down my neighbors fleets (get a military AI player made mod for a taste of what the ai can do), aliens that really scare me, 3d space, combat that unfolds in realtime, ground invasions with real options, an intertwined economic system that feels real in its complexity, a truly epic battle across the stars and its MOO dammit! With all the familiar races, techonologies and star systems! OMFG its awesome!!

Space empires IV and galciv arent bad games... for 5 years ago. Space empires IV can be beat with missiles for the first half of the game by kiting though. Galciv isnt bad but I cant find much desire to play it unfortunately, its too cartoonish, but I'm assured its like chess (*yawn*).

Keep flaming fanboys! I'm playin some MOO!

LOL. you show us. you play your lame game. i am glad i bought moo 3. it helped me learn about galciv. a game that is actually good.

Flaming = insult other users. I did not insult you.
MOO3 however sucks. Plain and simple.

And since you seem to be a MOO3 fanboy, why don't you stop bothering us "bitter" Galciv players and go to the flamefest MOO3 forums?

I bet 75% of galcivilians here (can i trademark this name :)) are disgruntled ex-MOO fans