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MVL Round 6

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MVL Round 6

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Welcome all to the sixth round of the Metaverse League!

Firstly congrats to the round 5 winners, The Eternal Villainy. Well done on a hard fought victory! :CONGRAT:

Please welcome to the league CraigHB, Wyndstar, CalifDude, Idazen and Haart guys, our newest MVL players.

CraigHB has been assigned to the Domination of Death (DoD), and along with the return of Noctilucus to the league and indeed to the DoD rounds out the DoD

Wyndstar has been assigned to the Blade Runners, please make him feel welcome!

CalifDude is on the A-Team and Idazen the Crusaders.

Haart, i have placed you in the Domination of Death.

Please welcome these guys to your teams.!

Please be sure to see your captains, for your core passwords.

Welcome guys, hope you enjoy the league, and welcome back Noctilucus, great to have you with us again!

Here are the teams for this round,



There has been some discussion as to the selection of appropriate games in the event of a MV submition but no MVL submition. This is close to being resolved and the new rule will be posted here very soon.

On to round 6.
We need a Military Conquest in a Tiny galaxy with 2 opponents.

Settings are as follows,

Habitable planets - Common
Number of planets - Occasional
Number of stars - Rare
Star Density - Scattered
Anomalies - Abundant
Asteroids - Uncommon
Tech rate - Normal
Minors - Random (DL)
Check - Super Abilities (DA)
Check - Allow Surrenders
Check - Blind Exploration
Check - All Victory Conditions
Uncheck - Disable Tech Trading
Uncheck - Mega Events (DA)
Uncheck - Disable Minors (DL)

Dread Lords screen...


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The round will end on Midnight 19th February 2008 (Forum Time)

Please remember guys to try and keep our pinned thread "The Metaverse League" very active. We may attract new players and it is our most prominent thread.

Good luck guys, this looks to be another interesting round. Again welcome CraigHB, Wyndstar, Idazen, CalifDude and Haart and welcome back Noctilucus!

Best of luck all.... ;)

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Reply #176 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
In battles, I haven't seen evidence that DA gives a 25% bonus to ships in orbit...I haven't been surprised by losing a battle to a weaker ship in orbit...and I don't see that in the DA manual. I plan to experiment a little with this in my next game. I plan to ask about this in the DA forum.
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There's something odd I've noticed with this. You do get the extra 25% military rating with ships in orbit, however, they don't seem to fair 25% better in battle. In any case, it works in my favor since I'm always the one killing ships in orbit, not the other way around. I don't defend my planets. You may lose a few, but putting those ships on offense will usually turn it around your way.

Reply #177 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Wonderful info and advice, M. Thanks as always.
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Reply #178 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
well, you'd still have to have pretty strong ships to really start seeing the numbers add up. The AI with a 3 missile isn't going to be really helped by the 25% orbital bonus, nor is the player. At 100 missile that extra 25 may make a difference however.

Another thing to factor in is the attack/defense rolls. Even at unseemly number like 1000 attack, the rolls are still from 0-max. It is theoretically possible that a tiny ship with 1 attack could theoretically take out a big gunned capital ship if all the rolls went the right way. Also, many players have the Luck ability which in DA changes the base roll of the attack from 25% (or 50%) of the max value instead of 0 (making your ships consistently powerful).

These are all factors that go into the battles.
Reply #179 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
You get more points from a small hull with a single point of beam attack than you do from a cargo hull with the same single point of beam attack. But you get far more points for a cargo hull with 10 phasors on it than you get from a small hull with 2 phasors on it.
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Hmm. Why not use missile weapons with cargos, then, if we're just trying to boost the attack power? As you know, a 2pt missile weapon is accessible very early in the game, without much investment in research. It would not be necessary to continue along the missile tech line, and probably better not to, since they'll be developing ECM as soon as they see your missiles.

Threads like this should probably be in the Strategy section where everyone can benefit, but hey, maybe we'll attract some people to the league this way, heh.
Reply #180 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
you're correct about one thing Ghostwes; one only need to peruse the other Round threads to see the veritable fountain of knowledge contained therein. I like to think that it is easily proven that playing in the MVL will help improve one's game.

and oh yeah...Yay Giants! (it may not have been my Colts, but it was still a Manning)
Reply #181 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hi!
Couldn't beat ya I.B. but a tie is good enough.
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:CONGRAT:

BR, Iztok
Reply #182 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Official...that word brings thoughts of Blades of Glory to mind. If your a Will Ferrell fan, you'll get the joke.

Heres my (official) entry for round 6!

Reply #183 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hmm, I might have to join in next round. I decided to try a game on these settings, and pulled out my first Painful Victory ever! (After struggling with Tough games, too. Pulling out a Painful Victory in 2 years and a Tough one in 1, I'm feeling pretty good). This league definitely seems fun enough for me to try.
Reply #184 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hmm, I might have to join in next round. I decided to try a game on these settings, and pulled out my first Painful Victory ever! (After struggling with Tough games, too. Pulling out a Painful Victory in 2 years and a Tough one in 1, I'm feeling pretty good). This league definitely seems fun enough for me to try.
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Actually it's not too late to join in for this round. I haven't seen Neilo (the commissioner) in a bit but FireBender (vice commish) is capable of making a team assignment, plus if you have a game that's ready to go then you're all set anyway. Even if you wished to improve the game there are still another 14 days left in the round in which to do it.

All you need to do is to ask in any of the MVL threads. One thing that new people sometimes mess up on is that you're free to post as many games to the Metaverse as you wish before deciding which to submit to the league but once you post a game to this thread it's final. :) In any case whether you want to start now or next round is totally up to you.
Reply #185 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
And once assigned, you'll have a private forum at the Core ( www.thegalacticcore.com)
Reply #186 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Alright, if I can still get in on this round, I might as well join up. I'll probably try to get in another game to see if there's any improvement, but I've got plenty of time for that.
Reply #187 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Actually. VegJed, why don't you take my spot in team B for this round, since it looks like I will be too busy to get a game in this round. I will be back for the following round, hopefully.

Neilo isn't around to approve this, unfortunately, but it seems straightforward enough that I don't think he will mind.
Reply #188 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Welcome to the MVL VegJed!!

lol..i edited much of this post...Ghost types faster than i do! ;) Sorry to hear you cannot play this round mate...hope to have you back in the league soon.

I have no issue with VegJed replacing Ghost, as long as everyone else is ok with it, all is well.

Again welcome aboard Vegjed, glad to have you in the league. Remember to check out some of our other threads to make sure you are up to speed. :)

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I haven't seen Neilo (the commissioner) in a bit
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My wife's step father passed away this past thursday so i have been organising many...many things....I have been checking in a little here and there but time atm is a little short. i will be back soon.
Reply #189 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I have no issue with VegJed replacing Ghost, as long as everyone else is ok with it, all is well.
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I see no problem.
Reply #190 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
As the captain of team b, I am happy to welcome a new player. Sorry to see you miss out on this round, Ghost, but I understand being too busy with RL; I was afraid that was going to happen to me this round, as well.
Reply #191 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
As the captain of team b, I am happy to welcome a new player. Sorry to see you miss out on this round, Ghost, but I understand being too busy with RL; I was afraid that was going to happen to me this round, as well.
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Seems official at this point.

One question, VegJed, is Pater Peccavi going to be your Metaverse League character?

Also each team has a private forum at the Core that requires a password that your captain will give to you but you do need to be registered at the Core first before it can work. There is also a common forum for the entire league, we've held a few votes there but otherwise the common area doesn't get too much action. You can take a look at the area without registering although you do need to register to be able to post anywhere as well as to have access to the teams private area. Anyway the league's common area is Galciv II Metaverse Leagues Subforums.

To register at the Core simply goto The Galactic Core and register. All you need is an email address but we do require the membership request to be validated by an admin, simply to cut down on spam bots. It usually takes maybe a day to get validated. Also it's nice if you use the same username there as you do here to avoid confusion.
Reply #192 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Evil Buggers will probably be my MVL character, since I tend to do smallish maps for fun anyways, it'll avoid any potential confusion. I've got some free time coming up, so I'll be able to get in a couple games for Evil Buggers before the deadline.
Reply #193 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I tend to do smallish maps for fun anyways, it'll avoid any potential confusion.
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That's a good idea. :)
Reply #194 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
And my main man MetaLeaguer steps up to the plate:

Reply #195 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Nice score mate!!!!
Reply #196 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Good shot, DA!.
Reply #197 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Thanks guys, it was originally a 4 year 18K game but I decided to go back and rework it a little :)
Reply #198 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Excellent game DethAdder! :) Knocked me out of the top 4, so no bonus point for me this time around....doh!

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Reply #199 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Spot on, Deth! Bravo!
Reply #200 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I want to remind folks about the ongoing vote concerning the surrender setting for DA, MVL DA Surrender Setting Vote. So far we've had 15 people vote which isn't too bad but hopefully a few more folks can share their opinion. In this case the vote is running 9 to 5 which is the same results we had in the tiebreak criteria vote but I'm a little bit more concerned about this vote.

My concern comes from my very strong attempt to achieve a 0 year win in DL to match all those 0 year wins that were posted using DA. The best I could do was a 1 year victory by April of year 1. Also the kind of score achievable in DL was probably about 10K versus the 15K and above that was achieved for DA.

It's not so much the relative scores, since I do believe that in general DA scores a bit higher than DL, but the most common reason in the vote for prefering DA surrenders always enabled was to keep a correspondence between DL and DA. I think that this correspondence is a fallacy. I also feel that there was more "strength" of preference exhibited by those that wanted this to be determined randomly versus those that say it should always be enabled.

I'm certainly not saying that we should overturn the decision of a clear majority because of a few "feelings" on my part, but I would like to discuss this a bit more because I feel that this surrender function is what allowed all these 0 year DA wins that are essentially impossible to achieve in DL.