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Capital World---really that vital?

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Capital World---really that vital?

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So I was playing...excuse me, is playing a long, epic game of Dark Avatar that I've been playing since November 1, 2007. I have not gone to war with any other major civilization...until NOW, when the Arceans decided to expand too much into worlds that were well inside my sphere of influence. Their empire is HUGE---They control about 40% of the galaxy wheras I control about 10%...and note this is on the biggest galaxy map.

I thought, "wait, if I behead the snake, the snake's body dies." so I decided to find the Arcean capital planet, Arcea, and after many years of constant warfare with the Arceans (for some reason they LOVE going directly into the heart of Sol and attempting to conquer Mars) I found Arcea. I sent all available ships to assualt the Arcean capital, and after a battle including billions of soldiers on each side, I took their planet. Arcea was around the 20th Arcean planet conquered, and I would think the Arceans would at least sign a peace treaty now that I have their homeworld...wrong. Nothing happened at all. No bonuses, no penalties to anyone, nothing.


SO! My point in all this---is the capital world of a civilization really worth anything, or is it just for show?
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Reply #26 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Yes he fought in the Civil War (50 years after 1812), which is why he began by saying "later on".
Reply #27 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hmmm. I think it might be too late but perhaps Stardock can give more consideration to how important a capital world would be?

I would think Earth would be especially vital---if it was conquered, you would think that the Terran Alliance would suffer greatly. Sure, they could get back on their feet, but still, I would think that Stardock would include the importantness of a capital planet in future products. I know it's not exactly realistic that a civilization falls in complete and utter chaos just because their capital planet is captured, but I think it should be more than just a planet with some bonuses from its Civilization Capital and a crown next to its name.
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Reply #28 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Didn't General Lee fight in the civil war? I thought the war of 1812 was something totally different...
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Yes, I was wondering if General Lee would have taken victory if he captured Washington? ... this seems to be what is implied in various civil war movies i have seen?
Reply #29 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If nothing else, AIs should be somewhat sentimental about their capital worlds, desperately focusing on regaining a lost world through conflict and negotiations.

If it were turned into a gameplay mechanic, perhaps there could be immediate empire wide morale and economic losses. These losses would recover over time... to an extent. Fully restoring morale and the economy would require retaking the capital.
Reply #30 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Luckily for America in the War of 1812 we weren't playing by those rules.


Do the Jaggard knife dudes get a capital?
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Sure, the Jagged Knife get a planet with a little crown symbol next to it. But unless they capture the homeworld of a previously existing civ, they have no 'Civilization Capital' building. Same thing with the Fundamentalists.

But the Vegans, who take over a Class 0 planet, do create a Civ Capital on that planet.

I think the crown symbol represents the planet where a civ's leader is. Capturing that planet, at the moment, causes the leader to automatically make a fail-proof escape to another world. When the leader has no more worlds to escape through, that civ is eliminated. Maybe if that 'escape' was given a probability of failure, things would be better. Should your crown world be captured and your escape fail, you lose the game, plain and simple. If an AI leader's escape fails, all that civs worlds should become randomly distributed among other civilizations.