this is BETA

we want the perfect game now... I blame Yarlen!

So we shouldn't report about bugs and gameplay ? Because thats all I've seen... aside from people arguing about the Vasari...  

no, but its for for those who bitch about the game in any way they can and that it will suck at release.
So with a funny, i hope they relax abit

What exactly prompted this post? Most of the threads are valid.. if not necessarily for release, then for patches. Granted some things keep getting beat to death despite numerous acknowledgements (*comforts AI*), but still

Yeah Multianna... I mean the bitchiest thread that has existed was the Vasari Underpowered one... the concept of which was valid but it quickly became a fight due to personalities. Which means it has nothing to do with the ideas involved.

Lets take a look here... we've got a discussion on the infinite economy... a HUGE change to the game... and no one is insulting anyone.

We've got a topic on sound editing, one on invisible unit troubles, and one for observers in replay, and one on the AI combat that claims to be both positive and negative.

So what exactly is wrong here other than your topic whining that we should stop talking?

This is Beta... which means for once complaining about game problems such as unit pathing, AI, and balance are ....

On Topic

This is what is Off Topic... and if you make be quiet... I will be so bored at work   

i took that back FYI, i were abit too fast drawing conclusion.


play games, listen to IRC or watch replay's and hear ppl complain, not that speaking about bugs is bad, oh no no. But complaining about the same stuff over and over again, when they already know it will be fixed, can be abit erm i dunno what to call it.

So making a post with a funny for ppl to understand and relax abit, to say have patience

What same stuff over and over again? Most have One Topic for each little thing. If it was topic spamming you would have a better point. The only issue to date was the Vasari debate... and that wasn't your fault, I'm not pointing at it to chastise you. It just happens to be the only example of something that needed to be left alone a bit.


The only thing getting repetitive is people noting that ships sometimes fly into real space instead of phase space... and they are not complaining so much as they didn't know it had been reported.

Most people don't relax when they see a 'funny' that tells them to be patient... in fact allot of people are patient enough until people tell them to stop whining and be patient lol! I mean common ever been to the Doctor's or the DMV?

Thats the last thing people want to hear haha

true, but im saying it anyway as things wont go faster just because you whine and expecting a bug free game now

well who was whining and saying 'I think the game sucks because its buggy'

I mean I'm just curious here cuz I havn't seen any posts like that in a looooong time... and usually I only hear things like 'There is no full 3D movement and gravity and real acceleration so I won't play' Only that was even longer ago wasn't it?

does it matter who are saying it?
it wasn't to someone specific just in general, so maybe this is why its bugging you so much? im just saying it from what i see and hear. As i play alot of games, watch forum, replays, IRC

Fabulous!

Gets out the popcorn.

*steals aforementioned popcorn*

No it really doesn't bug me, or at least I don't think you are talking about me. Thats really not my interest here, lord knows I post enough that you could be, but its not like your being insulting or anything.

No I'm trying to get you to back up your point with you know... like evidence or an argument that is based on more than just your feelings. I'm sure its based on observations, but saying 'I observed this conclusion' is alot less convincing than 'I observed X Y and Z which leads me to this conclusion.'

But hey if your not interested there really isn't much I can do about that

PS: Also you must be observing allot more of it in IRC, I'm just seeing that I don't see much of that sort here on the forum right now. And wouldn't it be more apropriate to tell people in IRC not to whine on an individual basis? Meh I suppose maybe not...

I think what Multi is probably starting to get a feel for is how many posts there are on bugs that have already been mentioned (and reported fixed) in multiple threads. It does get tiring.

its not about showing if im right or wrong, its to tell some ppl to relax abit.

Yarlen understood what i was saying it really gets tiring and repetitive when you eg playing a game or listening to IRC where the same ppl keeps complaining about the same thing over and over again

I could name a few names

I think a lot of people don't realize that Blair is a dev.. there've been several threads where people completely overlooked his posts and later on asked for a dev response Poor Blair *comforts*

*doesnt want to know how anny "comforts"*

but I generally agree, people skip all relevant posts and whine for a swift change.

umm, the thread title conjures up an image of 300 and multi kicking some poor newb in the nads

yes these will be fixed but the devs need to know about them to fix them.

i think blair is the dev. like brad is the dev at stardock.

Multi- well I guess I see better what you meant, if your bothered by the same complaints over and over. (like the aforementioned phase space thingy or say diplomacy being a bit lacking)

But its a little arrogant to claim something and tell people to stop whining if your not prepared to back yourself up... even if it is funny. If your telling people to do something... anything, its a command, which people shouldn't blindly listen to without reasons to compel them.

Bah whatever, i'm gonna go have a guinness, then I'll probably start throwing spears into persians

lol this is what Multi was trying to avoid by making a funny clip....we've done what he wanted us not to do...we are bitching about not being bitchy....it's so contradictory...

we have to be bitchy some place why not on this thread.