Allways crashing to Reboot on MacBook Pro

I experience crashes to reboot every time I am playing GalCiv 2 with or without Dark Avatar on my MacBook Pro running Windows XP SP2 natively.

Crashes to reboot occur inevitable but I can play longer if the laptop is cooler and the video settings are set lower. Crashes (Windows freezes, the reboots) occur between ca. 3 to 30 minutes of running GalCiv 2.

Every time I update GalCiv 2 (1.8a now), I hope the crash bug will be fixed but no luck so far.
Off course, it could be a video card (ATI X1600, 256MB VRAM) and/or driver (Catalyst 7.7) problem and yes - I have updated my drivers to the latest available version.

No other game (Sins of a Solar Empire Beta 3; Oblivion; Civ 4; Far Cry; Quake Wars demo; Supreme Commander; Medieval 2 - TW) crashes on the laptop even with very high video settings. Well ... ok - Civ 4 crashes on huge maps in late games because of memory allocation errors - stupid 32 bit system


Following is my debug.err of my latest crash with a freshly installed GalCiv 2:

Debug Message: Version v1.80a Dark Avatar last updated on: Fri Oct 19 12:12:47 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 10/21/2007, 17:13:55
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name:
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Reply #1 Top
Thanks for the referrals.
Still no luck running GalCiv II on MacBook Pro even with the latest driver updates.
XP Pro crashes to reboot after about 1 minute.
No other application does it.
Reply #2 Top
but I can play longer if the laptop is cooler
End of quote


If you are running on AC power, try running it strictly on battery.

It should run cooler since the cpu throttles down when on battery.
Reply #3 Top
Yes, I have the exact same problem with the demo of GC2 Gold! Except my MBP is slightly lower spec than yours with a 128MB X1600. Apparently I just won a copy of GC2 from a contest so I was just waiting for that in hope of it being just an issue with the demo, but I guess that's not the case.

I tried playing around with the video drivers and such, using Omega Drivers now. All other games (Vampire Bloodlines, Civ4, HL2) run fine.
Reply #4 Top
I'm having the same problem with the same setup (XP SP2, Radeon X1600 256MB, all current drivers).

I play Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Call of Duty 4, Supreme Commander, Pirates of the Burning Sea Beta, etc...many many current games with tricked out graphics. GalCiv is the only game that this is happening with.

Please help! Thanks much!


Here is my debug.err file:
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Debug Message: Version v1.80g Twilight of the Arnor beta 3D last updated on: Thu Dec 20 11:29:34 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 12/31/2007, 21:06:57
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: PIMPLICIOUS
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
System Model: MacBookPro2,2
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz (2 CPUs)
Physical Memory: 2032MB RAM
Page File: 562MB used, 3363MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: Radeon X1600 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip Type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C5)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_0080106B&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6755
Driver Date: 12/4/2007 22:04:10
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: SigmaTel Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7680&SUBSYS_106B1E00&REV_1034
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: sthda.sys
Provider: SigmaTel
Driver Version: 5.10.5185.0000
Driver Date: 10/8/2007 20:59:32
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using hardware vertex processing
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_4_SAMPLES
Debug Message: Attempting to create D3DDevice at resolution 1680 x 1050, Windowed: 0, Multisample: 4
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (hw vp): Radeon X1600 Series
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 60
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 369e99
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Tutorials\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\sfx\*.wav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Event Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\*.xml
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2./Data/English/\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message: GalaxyWnd: Cannot find OBJID Scenaro_MoreDetails_FText
Debug Message: GalaxyWnd: Cannot find OBJID Scenaro_Details_FormattedText
Debug Message: CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Title
Debug Message: CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Disctiption_Spinner_Back
Debug Message: CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Disctiption_Title
Debug Error: CustomShipStyleWnd: Unknown edit field ShipList_List_Entry type: CustomListEntry
Debug Error: CustomShipStyleWnd: Unknown edit field ShipList_Avalible_List_Entry type: CustomListEntry
Debug Message: Creating Galaxy
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Star Frequency: 3 Max Num Stars: 320
Debug Message: Planet Frequency: 2 Max Num Planets: 768
Debug Message: Galaxy Size Set: 22 x 22
Debug Message: Creating Random Map
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Stars
Debug Message: Star Density: Tight Clusters.
Debug Message: Number of Unplaced Stars: 94.
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Planets
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message: Total planets placed: 65
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Anomalies
Debug Message: Num Anomalies: 300
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Resources
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Ascension Crystals
Debug Message: Creating Random Map... Done
Debug Message: Distributing bonuses on planets...
Debug Message: Tried to enter unprintable character: 8
Debug Message: Tried to enter unprintable character: 8
Debug Message: Tried to enter unprintable character: 9
Reply #5 Top
Have you guys tried going to Control Panel->System Properties->Advanced Tab->Startup and Recovery Settings and unchecking 'automatically restart' to see if it's trying to throw a BSOD?
Reply #6 Top
Thanks for the tip Kryo! I tried it, but it still rebooted after a couple of minutes.


Here's my latest debug.err:
*****************************************

Debug Message: Version v1.80g Twilight of the Arnor beta 3D last updated on: Thu Dec 20 11:29:34 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 1/1/2008, 00:08:10
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: PIMPLICIOUS
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
System Model: MacBookPro2,2
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz (2 CPUs)
Physical Memory: 2032MB RAM
Page File: 480MB used, 3445MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: Radeon X1600 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip Type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C5)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_0080106B&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6755
Driver Date: 12/4/2007 22:04:10
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: SigmaTel Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7680&SUBSYS_106B1E00&REV_1034
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: sthda.sys
Provider: SigmaTel
Driver Version: 5.10.5185.0000
Driver Date: 10/8/2007 20:59:32
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using hardware vertex processing
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_4_SAMPLES
Debug Message: Attempting to create D3DDevice at resolution 1680 x 1050, Windowed: 0, Multisample: 4
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (hw vp): Radeon X1600 Series
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 60
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 369e99
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Tutorials\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\sfx\*.wav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Event Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\*.xml
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2./Data/English/\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar\Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\DarkAvatar/gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask D:\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/ShipTemplates/\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Metaverse\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\CustomMaps\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Backup\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\temp\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ships\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\shiptemplates\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\ShipStyles\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\SandboxGames\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Gfx\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Joshua\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\Dark Avatar\*.sav
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Loading Custom Map
Debug Message: Loading Data Defs
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: Loading TechDefs
Debug Message: Max num techs: 477
Debug Message: Loading ImprovementDB
Debug Message: Loading Component Defs
Debug Message: Loading ShipTypes
Debug Message: Loading ShipTemplates
Debug Message: Loading ParsedHardpoints
Debug Message: Loading AnomalyTypes
Debug Message: Loading RandomEvents
Debug Message: Loading UPIssues
Debug Message: Loading ResourceTypes
Debug Message: Loading InvasionTactics
Debug Message: Loading SBmodules
Debug Message: Loading PoliticalParties
Debug Message: Loading Planet Types
Debug Message: Loading Star Types
Debug Message: Loading AFMBModules
Debug Message: Loading ShipStyles
Debug Message: Loading TechTrees
Debug Message: Loading TechTreeDefs
Debug Message: Loading Game
Debug Message: Loading: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Loading Galaxy
Debug Message: Game started in version v1.80g Twilight of the Arnor beta 3D
Debug Message: Sectors across: 22 x 22
Debug Message: Loading FOW Map
Debug Message: Loading ZOC Map
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Reply #7 Top
I've noticed that this seems to behave like a heat issue.

On a cold startup I was able to play without problems for three hours. Then it restarted the first time. After that, it would restart sporadically every few minutes like it has been.

Other graphically-intense games don't make my laptop do this (Crysis, Call of Duty 4, The Witcher), and I keep the graphic settings in the medium to high range.

Still, I'm enjoying the game as much as I can. The redesign is brilliant!

In the event that this is an insurmountable problem and TA only runs for a few minutes before crapping out, is that cause for a refund?
Reply #8 Top

I've noticed that this seems to behave like a heat issue.

On a cold startup I was able to play without problems for three hours. Then it restarted the first time. After that, it would restart sporadically every few minutes like it has been.

Other graphically-intense games don't make my laptop do this (Crysis, Call of Duty 4, The Witcher), and I keep the graphic settings in the medium to high range.

Still, I'm enjoying the game as much as I can. The redesign is brilliant!

In the event that this is an insurmountable problem and TA only runs for a few minutes before crapping out, is that cause for a refund?
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Yeah, it definitely feels like a heat issue. That, or maybe a memory issue? I'm hoping this is fixable because I'm hopelessly addicted. :(
Reply #9 Top
Broken hardware, I'd return it to the manufacturer if warranty hasn't expired yet.
Reply #10 Top

Broken hardware, I'd return it to the manufacturer if warranty hasn't expired yet.
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Eh, I don't think it's broken, per se. GalCiv2 is the only game that makes my computer do this. Other games like Crysis don't. I would think GC2 wouldn't need more resources than that game.

I'm hoping it's a memory issue!
Reply #11 Top
If you are running it on AC power, try running on strictly battery power.
It should run cooler, as the CPU is throttled down when on battery power.
Reply #12 Top
I don't think it's broken, per se. GalCiv2 is the only game that makes my computer do this. Other games like Crysis don't. I would think GC2 wouldn't need more resources than that game.
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If a computer restarts to overheating, it's broken. Obviously, not all programs are capable of stressing the system so much that it overheats.
But on a proper system you could even install programs which would deliberately try to overheat without causing any problems.

For example GC2 is quite memory and CPU intensive, while afaik Crysis is heavy on your GPU instead. Different usage patterns exhibit different hardware issues.

Reply #13 Top
i use a fan that sits on the bottom of my mac book pro to keep it cool. mine also runs with a 8600m gt from nvidia, so far no problems with any games ive tried
Reply #14 Top

I don't think it's broken, per se. GalCiv2 is the only game that makes my computer do this. Other games like Crysis don't. I would think GC2 wouldn't need more resources than that game.


If a computer restarts to overheating, it's broken. Obviously, not all programs are capable of stressing the system so much that it overheats.
But on a proper system you could even install programs which would deliberately try to overheat without causing any problems.

For example GC2 is quite memory and CPU intensive, while afaik Crysis is heavy on your GPU instead. Different usage patterns exhibit different hardware issues.


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When you have 3 people reproducing the same issue in the same manner on the same type f hardware, it's not an issue with an individual piece of hardware but an incompatibility with the game design that's evident on a TYPE of hardware. It could be due to a hardware design flaw, a driver issue or a game design flaw.

Given that Beef Hammer isn't having any issues with his 8600-powered MBP, it seems likely that it probably has something to do with the X1600 in our MBPs.
Reply #15 Top


If a computer restarts to overheating, it's broken. Obviously, not all programs are capable of stressing the system so much that it overheats.
But on a proper system you could even install programs which would deliberately try to overheat without causing any problems.

For example GC2 is quite memory and CPU intensive, while afaik Crysis is heavy on your GPU instead. Different usage patterns exhibit different hardware issues.
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I can appreciate your argument. Computers should be able to run programs without overheating.

That's IF this is a heat issue and not a memory issue, which is why I'm bumping this message again with this reply.

Still, MacBook Pros do generate a lot of heat with so much hardware crammed into a tight space. And I completely don't want this to turn into "and that's why Macs suck" thread.

All that aside, GalCiv2 is an AMAZING game. However, if GalCiv2 is too intensive of an application for my computer, which is used for uncompressed video editing and magazine pagination, then I'll need my TA pre-order money back, please.

I'll go back to playing Sins of a Solar Empire, another fantastic Stardock game, where I don't have this issue.
Reply #16 Top

You'll need to e-mail [email protected] for a refund, but we don't give refunds on pre-orders, so you would probably have to wait until TA comes out.

In the meantime, do you have one of those Targus chillmats that plug into your USB port?  I had to use one when I had a Toshiba laptop or it would constantly overheat and reboot when I was playing games. 

Reply #17 Top
Thanks for the response, CariElf.

Actually, I was looking at getting one of those Targus things. I'd rather not give up GalCiv, honestly. I'll post the results if that helps.
Reply #18 Top
I am running into the exact same problem as the other MacBook Pro users. I JUST bought the game and have not been able to even fully try it out.

My Debug.err

Debug Message: Version v1.5 last updated on: Thu Jan 11 13:39:19 2007
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 1/18/2008, 10:57:51
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: JAMESMAC
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
System Model: MacBookPro2,2
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz (2 CPUs)
Physical Memory: 2032MB RAM
Page File: 408MB used, 3516MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: Radeon X1600
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip Type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C5)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_0080106B&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1280 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6734
Driver Date: 10/16/2007 19:04:49
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes

Display device 2:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY2
Card Name: Radeon X1600
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip Type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C5)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_0080106B&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1280 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6734
Driver Date: 10/16/2007 19:04:49
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: SigmaTel Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7680&SUBSYS_106B1E00&REV_1034
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: sthda.sys
Provider: SigmaTel
Driver Version: 5.10.5185.0000
Driver Date: 3/21/2007 18:13:51
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Reply #19 Top
One of the biggest issues with laptops of any type is they generate as much heat or more than a standard computer. Combined with a much smaller case and less means for airflow, they can have these problems with quite a variety of programs; not just games. The best thing to do is to look into a cooling system. There are several out now that work extremely well. I general recommend to my laptop customers one of two actual ultra thin fan types that the laptop sits on. Very light weight, and no discomfort if using it in your lap.

Like Salemonz, not to trash a good system, but Macs running Windows do have glitches that will show up sparactically. This is due to the actual Mac OS base codes still running underneath to properly redirect Windows component addresses that are different from standard PC's. While the difference now is smaller than ever, they can still be pesky at the most unopportune times.

Regardless, I would worry about heat first and formost. That should solve most all your problems.
Reply #20 Top
Well, I think I found a solution.

After much research, I found a few things you can do.

1) As mentioned above, I did go out and buy a Targus Chill Mat, and that helped alittle. My MBP was still running idle at about 56 degrees Celsius and when running the game, I saw it peak to about 90 degrees however, the game does still crash.

2) I did find out about this downloadable program http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23049 that allows you to control your fan speed but you must download it on your Mac OS, and set it there. Does it work with windows you ask? well according to its FAQ, if you set it in mac, and then reboot to windows the settings should stick, and since I have downloaded it, it seems to be doing just that. currently I am sitting idle at 46 degrees and when I play the game, its at 70 degrees (MUCH BETTER) and so far NO CRASHES.

For those people with strong stomachs,
3) http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/01/macbook-pros-overheating-due-to-thermal-grease/
I also found out that Apple applied way to much thermal grease which would also cause your heating to go up, and some have taken apart their systems, scraped off the old grease and properly re-applied Arctic Silver 5 and that seemed to make a big difference too, however it voids your warranty.

Hope this helps.
Reply #21 Top
NINTEY DEGREES CELSIUS IN A LAPTOP!!!!

Yeah, that explains everything. Heck, even 70C worries me in a desktop.
Reply #22 Top
I agree. My Pentium D is prone to running pretty hot, and when I first got the game it would reach upwards of 80C. I added an additional case fan and a Zalman CPU cooler, which reduced the peak temps by about 15C.

But 90C is something I would be scared silly of.
Reply #23 Top
Yeah, I was really worried for awhile. I refused to play GCII until I found a solution. Now that I have the fans running more and faster, it realy helps. Its a tiny bit noisier but worth it if it prevents my system from melting. I did talk to a Mac Genius about the overage of thermal grease and he stated that the reason they put so much is that it will prevent quick increases and decreases in temperature, allowing the set peices to cool down and heat up slower. However this prevents the fans from coming on sooner, or fast enough, making it queiter, yes. But I would rather my fans be running faster, and it being abit noisier, so I can play my game. lol. Thats why we are in this forum, isnt it?
Reply #24 Top
My MBP was still running idle at about 56 degrees Celsius and when running the game, I saw it peak to about 90 degrees however, the game does still crash.
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Good God, and people say this is a software problem!

Even with a non-functioning fan in my Dell laptop, I had about 60°C when working. Like kryo said, 70°C has me seeing red lights even on my desktop. Depending on where the temperature is measured, your drives, memory and GPU should by all means be cooking at 90°C.

PS: A friend of mine once managed to snap a screenshot showing his CPU running at 120°C. Not for long, mind you...
Reply #25 Top
The temp reading I got was using Hmonitor. Was making me see red too, infact the reading was highlighted in blood red telling me there was a problem.