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lack of planets/ habitable planets v1.8

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Hello all,

I know there was a planet cap put into the maps now, of which I disagree with because to those people who don't like the slow down with the whole galaxy covered could just play on smaller galaxies, however that's not my call and even though I'm not happy with it I somewhat can understand it. Now every game I've started or tried to start I've seen a lack of panets near my location or a lack of habitable planets near my starting location.

Even though I've loaded numerous games I've only actually played a turn on three all three have have only a few planets that were habitable near me even though in my settings I have aboundant habitable planets selected. (I hate to see what it would look like the opposite way)

In my current game within on sector in the galaxy of my home planet there are 11 other systems of which only 1 is a three planet, 5 are four planet, and 6 are 5 planet systems, which sound promising. 3 though have no habitable planets, 6 have one habitable planets, however 1 of those is an aquatic world. The remaining two systems have 2 habitable planets of which 1 in each are either aquatic or radioactive worlds.

In the past I normally have near double the number of habitable planets with a set up like that if not more and I've noticed this now in at least 3 games since the v1.8 update. I don't recall this issue as much in beta version 1.7 beta 4, but then again I haven't started a new game since beta 2 or 3.

Please help thank you.
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Reply #126 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I vote for a "scorched earth" policy on this thread. It stopped being entirely relevant when 1.8a was released, it can't go anywhere good from here, and it's one more response from Brad away from being an article on Gamespot.
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Ahhhh
Scorched Earth. that was a fine game, wasn't it?

How about them Detroit Lions and how much they suck?
Reply #127 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

How about them Detroit Lions and how much they suck?
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Hey, they won yesterday.

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Reply #128 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
How about them Detroit Lions and how much they suck?
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They did beat TB yesterday, and in the pregame they were saying how good the bucs were lol.
Reply #129 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hey, they won yesterday.
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Word is they are going to win 10 this season. Think that will be enough to take the division?



- Wyndstar
Reply #130 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
all i have to say is GO CHARGERS! (so, they got off to a bad start this season... it'll make their wins all the more dramatic).
Reply #131 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Good to see you here more often Wyndstar, your sage advice has been missed. Word is my dolphons will lose 10 this season. Or is it Wayne's dolphins...certainly not mine....
Reply #132 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I don't think the Lions ever recovered from Barry Sanders' weird spontaneous retirement. I think it left an indelible psychic scar on the franchise. They need one of those "total makeovers" like the Bucaneers did a while back. New colors, new uniforms, everything. Get rid of the lingering Bad Mojo.
Reply #133 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I heard something mentioned in Frogboy's posts about changes to constructor management? What changes? I didn't see any changes in the change log. If changes were made to make it less tedious then awesomeness.
Reply #134 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

How about them Detroit Lions and how much they suck?


Hey, they won yesterday.


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WooHoo GO Detroit!!! Can`t help it i`m from Michigan !!!.........
Reply #135 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
So everyone is aware, I grew up in Michigan too, and used to be a Detroit Lions fan, but hey, everyone's faith has a breaking point.
Reply #136 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Isn't Stardock in Michigan?

Please don't upset Brad anymore. He is our gamer company's hero.
Reply #137 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I heard something mentioned in Frogboy's posts about changes to constructor management? What changes?
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He was refering (I beleive) to the new governor that lets you send all ships of a given class to a rally point.

This was originally a more specific toggle on the Starbase screen that said "send all constructors here", but we figured a governor would make more sense (jsut as much work for even more usability).

Reply #138 from GalCiv2 Forums Top



Am I the only here who would never be able to stand gigantic maps? Are you guys moaning because now there are 300 planets instead of 400? I would HATE having to manage 400 planets. God, it would be so tedious.... ordering 400 new starships to the frey when trying to take over the galaxy every few turns... Screw that.

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Actually DA 1.8a gigantic abundant planets and stars map gives you around 450 habitable planets while DL gave you around 350. This is why these games can take a month to finish.
This is one of the complaints some civ3 fans had over civ4 ... not enough cities.
Reply #139 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
It boggles my mind how anyone would want to manage 400 planets.

But hey have it your way.

Bah dum da dum (MacDonalds theme)
Reply #140 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

It boggles my mind how anyone would want to manage 400 planets.

But hey have it your way.

Bah dum da dum (MacDonalds theme)
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It boggles my mind how anyone would like to spend forever researching tech to build ships with, spend time in the ship builder painstakingly designing lines of beautiful ships, and then have the battle and game be over 2 minutes later after you knock out that enemy race with it's 3 planets. Some people like more substantial challenges.

Have it your way indeed. I realize there's no avoiding the sycophants coming out of the woodwork now with their "righteous indignation", and completely blowing the character of the way this thread started out of proportion, but let's not start attacking people for enjoying the game the way they like to play it, and with the way they were used to being able to play it. Let it go.

Thank you Stardock for your ongoing responsiveness and attention to this matter, and thank you to the original posters in this thread who for the most part, phrased their concerns in a thoughtful and non-inflammatory manner, and brought to Stardock's attention an issue, which they seemed to agree was significant enough to promptly release two subsequent patches to specifically address. Aside from the bad turn it took, and a few poorly chosen remarks, I actually think this thread was a good example of a good working relationship between developer and community.

Now, we all have a game to play, do we not?
Reply #141 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hey, they won yesterday.


Word is they are going to win 10 this season. Think that will be enough to take the division?



- Wyndstar
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Not a chance, Detroit has struggled more against avereage teams than most of the other one or two loss teams have. After all look at the eagles game what was the score? They might win 10 games however I'm sorry to say to all of you Lion fans out there The packers will be first or second in the NFC with at least 12 wins However, I will enjoy a great game on thanksgiving I wish the lions the best of luck until the packers take them out in the playoffs GO PACKERS GO
Reply #142 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oh and I just noticed this because I checked this prior to loading the game after work Thanks for the 1.8b update even though we probrably didn't deserve it Don't know what it does I'm assuming it had something to do with one of the issues in the threads over the weekend don't even know if it is directly related to this thread could be making a fool of myself but thanks anyways
Reply #143 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I'd just like to throw out that I support Stardock 100%. Those attacking the games and the free updates are an intense minority. Tens of thousands of people (at least) play Gal Civ 2. Half a dozen cry and complain. Don't let it sour you all to the community at large, these are the people that after winning the lottery would cry over having to pay taxes. On the whole we really enjoy the game, updates, and especially the response to feedback on the forums. I can't think of a single other company who's CEO and lead designers take the time to respond to fan's every day. Long live Stardock.

On a to the people who have raised holy hell about this. Chill out. It was one problem, one mistake. It affected only people that played specific maps sizes and was fixed within 24 hours. The only people who even saw the problem were those who downloaded the update the first day it was available. The issue didn't cause the game to crash, didn't produce error messages. Chill out.

On an off topic note, is their any way that in a future update or in the expansion we could include a little player notebook, a tab that could be opened where we could journalize things which could be accessed as a note/wordpad doc? A bunch of members like to make AAR's, and it would be far easier if we could type them up without exiting out of Gal Civ. The printscreen screenshot helps immensely as we can now save images without a huge hassel, but I thought I'd ask all the same.
Reply #144 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

On an off topic note, is their any way that in a future update or in the expansion we could include a little player notebook, a tab that could be opened where we could journalize things which could be accessed as a note/wordpad doc? A bunch of members like to make AAR's, and it would be far easier if we could type them up without exiting out of Gal Civ. The printscreen screenshot helps immensely as we can now save images without a huge hassel, but I thought I'd ask all the same.
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Well, you have the event log and you could always play GC2 in a windowed mode to switch easily to a text editor during your play

Reply #145 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Some people like more substantial challenges.
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A lot that I have heard suggests the game is more difficult on smaller galaxies rather than larger galaxies. I believe I heard from Frogboy himself that more processing power is used on larger galaxies, so less goes into the AIs "decision making"- if you can call it that.

Besides, on medium galaxies, the end game still takes hours and hours if you are trying to conquer the galaxy.
Reply #146 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
You have played on a higher difficulty, so I will shut up now, however, I do beleive at any given level of difficulty, smaller galaxies are actually more challenging.
Reply #147 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
On an off topic note, is their any way that in a future update or in the expansion we could include a little player notebook, a tab that could be opened where we could journalize things which could be accessed as a note/wordpad doc? A bunch of members like to make AAR's, and it would be far easier if we could type them up without exiting out of Gal Civ. The printscreen screenshot helps immensely as we can now save images without a huge hassel, but I thought I'd ask all the same.
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Kool ideal !!!
Reply #148 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Some people like more substantial challenges.


A lot that I have heard suggests the game is more difficult on smaller galaxies rather than larger galaxies. I believe I heard from Frogboy himself that more processing power is used on larger galaxies, so less goes into the AIs "decision making"- if you can call it that.

Besides, on medium galaxies, the end game still takes hours and hours if you are trying to conquer the galaxy.
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Thank you for nitpicking my attempt to bring a balanced resolution to this god awful thread which should have been locked days ago. Without being suckered into debating, at all, the merits of small maps vs large maps, in a thread that just doesn't need any more silliness, I will just point out that I chose my words deliberately.

According to dictionary.com:

Substantial: 1. of ample or considerable amount, quantity, size, etc.: a substantial sum of money.

It was a quantitative, not qualitative, adjective.


Now, in the same way that the guy who chimes in to lecture someone on forum etiquette, or chastise someone on using the search function , always ends up being more annoying than than whatever infraction the Original poster committed in the first place...we now have 3 times as many posts expressing their righteous indignation over the existence of the thread, attacking people for liking large maps, attacking people for attacking the "free" updates (which never happened, BTW, but I realize that's not important to mob mentality...I'm sure most of the people posting now never bothered to read the thread)...than we had posts when the thread was on-topic (and only a few of those really went too far).

Most of the original posters in this thread don't deserve your derision, and the very few that might, have now have been punished for this many times over. In the heated segment of the thread, we already lost someone who was otherwise a decent contributor to these boards to the Banstick...how much more do we really need to pick at this scab?
Reply #149 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I think most of the problem in this thread is due to the fact that many people don't realise that all these updates are a curtasy of stardock. This was thouroughly explained before (in galciv days), for the "oldtimers" in here. But some of the posters that came to the game later on, they seem to see the updates just as patches, which most of the time they are not: they constantly renew the game, not just correct bugs.
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Sorry that this is a bit OT, but this sounds a bit strange to me.

First of I love Stardock, especially because there is no drm on galciv2. That was actually a big reason for me to buy the game in the first place.

However.

I play a lot of games. Mostly shooters and other strategy games. For example Battlefield 2. Since it's release they have released a bunch of patches. And in these patches there has been a lot of updates. Everything from fixes to game changing balancing, 3 new maps, and other new things like jeep drops and such. And never have they pointed out that the patches where free, because every other games patches are free so it's redundant. And I have never personally seen a non-free patch.

I do not mean that I demand free updates for every game. As long as the product works well it's good enough for me, updates are just extra. Most other games I have played just seemed to give the updates as a selling point, to extend the products life span and/or audience. Not as manna from the sky.

I do not mean to offend, my post just makes sense from my perspective
Reply #150 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
to this god awful thread
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indeed, someone just shut this damn thing down!