New vid card and new Forceware = jaggies

Can you get a screenshot of it and post your debug.err?

(FYI, "jaggies" are the opposite of anti-aliasing--this is something else, which I think I've seen people report from time to time before, the screenshot should help confirm that)

Kryo,

I'll have to get it when I get home tonight. Thanks for looking for now. I'll look up the process of getting a debug report done and post it here tonight.

Here's a screenshot:



And here's the debug.err:

Debug Message: Version v1.61 Dark Avatar last updated on: Wed Jun 13 14:10:36 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 9/28/2007, 17:12:51
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: FREDSCOMPUTER
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: KT600-8237
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.1GHz
Physical Memory: 1536MB RAM
Page File: 247MB used, 3141MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce 7600 GT
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E0&SUBSYS_A5593842&REV_A2
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: SyncMaster 940T/940B/940Be,SyncMaster Magic CX914B(Digital)
Monitor Max Resolution: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6218
Driver Date: 6/29/2007 00:43:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: SB PCI512 Wave Device
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80231102&REV_08
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: emu10k1f.sys
Provider: Creative
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.3509
Driver Date: 8/14/2001 16:17:52
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using hardware vertex processing
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_4_SAMPLES
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (hw vp): NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 60
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 369e99
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\sfx\*.wav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Event Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding FullscreenBink
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=1
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Dark Avatar\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Metaverse\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\SandboxGames\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Story Logs\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Fred\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\temp\*.sav
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Loading Custom Map
Debug Message: Loading Data Defs
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: Loading TechDefs
Debug Message: Max num techs: 273
Debug Message: Loading ImprovementDB
Debug Message: Loading Component Defs
Debug Message: Loading ShipTypes
Debug Message: Loading ShipTemplates
Debug Message: Loading ParsedHardpoints
Debug Message: Loading AnomalyTypes
Debug Message: Loading RandomEvents
Debug Message: Loading UPIssues
Debug Message: Loading ResourceTypes
Debug Message: Loading InvasionTactics
Debug Message: Loading SBmodules
Debug Message: Loading PoliticalParties
Debug Message: Loading Planet Types
Debug Message: Loading Star Types
Debug Message: Loading AFMBModules
Debug Message: Loading ShipStyles
Debug Message: Loading Game
Debug Message: Loading: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Loading Galaxy
Debug Message: Sectors across: 5 x 5
Debug Message: Loading FOW Map
Debug Message: Loading ZOC Map
Debug Message: Loading Planets
Debug Message: Loading Stars
Debug Message: Loading Anomalies
Debug Message: Loading Resources
Debug Message: Loading AsteroidFields
Debug Message: Loading AFMiningBases
Debug Message: Loading Civs
Debug Message: Loading Colonies
Debug Message: Loading RallyPoints
Debug Message: Loading Ships
Debug Message: Loading Fleets
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Loading Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Loading Treaties
Debug Message: Loading ENDGALAXYDATA
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: UIBeginGame called with g_ulLocalPlayerID = 4
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: New Game Started
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: Mods are Disabled
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=20
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding QuarterlyWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=16
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 2
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
Debug Message: OptionsWnd: Quit Btn
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Posting WM_CLOSE message.
Debug Message: WM_CLOSE message received.
Debug Message: GameUninitialize start
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy: Completed
Debug Message: Shutting down sound system.
Debug Message: Clearing sound and music handles.
Debug Message: PlanetTex_C:\Games\GalCiv2\Data\HeightMaps\p10_h1_w512_h256_819406702.raw_Earthlike not cleared 1 counts left.
Debug Message: WorkAreaBack.png not cleared 1 counts left.
Debug Message: GameUninitialize end
Debug Message: Device not cleared. 1296 counts left.
Debug Message: D3D not cleared. 1 counts left.
Debug Message: Destroying Window.
Debug Message: Main Shell terminating normally

I'm just a user here. But, it looks like there's driver update available. For the NVidia 7600 series, I'm showing the latest drivers to be 163.71 (dated 28 Sep 07):

NVIDIA Driver Downloads

Also, I've seen similar screenshots on their ForceWare Drivers forum (though usually for Vista, not XP).

I'll try the driver, thanks! I think a PM to Kyro will be coming soon

Nope, still no joy, but thanks for trying David! Kryo, your thoughts?

Cari suggested trying running the game in a window (if you use your desktop resolution it'll still look like fullscreen), and changing the anti-aliasing level.

Other than being super annoying, at least it looks kinda cool, like rain or comets coming out of the screen at you!

Thanks Kryo, I'll give those two a try tonight.

Damn.

I've been getting the same with my GeForce 7900 GT on a few different games. I thought it was graphics card was going out. Actually i still think it's going bad because all the default vga screens have hot spot pixel points (sorta like a digital camerea thats been exposed to the sun to long.) Also the windows boot have errent characters displayed. ie instead of "Booting drive C:" it displays "BooØing drive ⌂:"

better go investigate a little more i think.

Bakka

I don't know if this is the right place to bring this up, but for those with this problem, are you overclocking either your system or your video card? Could it be a heat related problem (for instance, if you run with the case open, does the problem go away?)?

hehe.. i never overclock my own stuff but i do overclock "friends" machines i build for them.

I don't believe i have a heat issue but i will check it out. thanks for the suggestion.

Bakka

Kryo (and others),

Turned Fullscreen "off" and anti-aliasing "off". Still no joy. Vid card is not overclocked and I don't experience this in any other games or programs. Any other suggestions?

I have a gf 7600gt card and if I run anti-aliasing less the 4 it does crazy things to the

graphics !!! try that turn anti-aliasing all the way up also make sure it is set for best quality on pics !!!

Cari's working at trying to dig up old cases of this to look at, so I'll just give some general things you can try meanwhile (tried looking for the old threads on the matter myself some more, still no luck).

Reinstall the game.
Reinstall DirectX 9.0c.
Uninstall your video drivers, wipe out all traces via Driver Cleaner (google it), then install the latest ones again.
Try various FSAA/Mipmap/etc settings in the nVidia control panel.

So far, I have been unable to find the old records in the bug database about this issue, but I have another suggestion.  In case it's due to the fonts, try re-installing the fonts using this exe:

http://sd.stardock.com/mike/files/gc2-fonts.exe

 

Awesome, thanks for all the suggestions Stardock team! I'll try everything tonight and see how it goes.

Kryo and Cari,

Here's what I've tried so far:
- Reload fonts - no change
- Reinstall the game - no change
- Reinstall DX9 - no change
- Uninstall/wipe/reinstall vid drivers - no change

Still to try:
- Messing with settings in the nVidia control panel. I'll have to do this tomorrow night. Thanks for trying!

I give up. I tried every setting in the Nvidia control panel with no change. Any last options before I RMA the card?

Have you asked Nvidia what they think? (please don't laugh, there must be some human beings there somewhere.)

drrider

Nope.

Such strangeness seems the fault of the hardware itself.
Bad memory or chipset...

You may want to also try lowering your graphics settings, as well as your hardware accelleration... Though, for either one, you shouldn't have to.

I'm running a 7800GS and am having no problems with the latest drivers under XP. I'd venture a guess that it may, indeed, be the card if the latest drivers are still not resolving your issue.

Kryo suggested running in a window.  Did you try running in a lower resolution like 1024x768 to see if it happens in a window that's not fullscreen.

Also, did I suggest that you check to see if there are any updated drivers for your monitor yet?

 

Hey everyone, thanks for your suggestions thusfar.

Drrider - Haven't called Nvidia yet...but might try that tonight
Khanon - Set all graphics to minimum and also underclocked the card. No effect.
Cari - Windowed mode made no effect. Neither did a lower resolution.

To check tonight - Updated monitor driver, possibly call Nvidia. Also, I had a brainstorm to try rolling back to an older Nvidia driver. Hey, you never know, right?

Rolling back the driver may help, though at this point I believe that will only mask the real issue... You should be able to turn the card all the way up with no issues.