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MVL Round 3

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MVL Round 3

"The Metaverse League"

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Hi guys welcome to round 3 of the League. We have a few streamlining rules this round so be sure to check them out below. If of course we feel that there are not to our liking then we can change at the end of the round, but i think we are on top of most of the bugs now and things should go more smoothly. I will point out though that there is 1 rule that i will put in place this round that can be thrown out mid round.

"in the instance of a notified and accepted non-submital, not a "no show", in a 4 man team, a back up game will be allowed to be played be a fellow team member. That fellow team member will be randomally assigned by either myself or Firebender. A non submital with no explantion or prior notification will not be granted this privilage."

Ok here is the rule changes for round 3,

Team Bonus

Fastest team game time (average) 2 BP
2nd fastest team game time (average) 1 BP

Highest team score (average) 2 BP
2nd highest team score (average) 1 BP

Individual Bonus

For this round ( the different victory types),

1 BP for fastest and highest game per victory type.

No penalty's.

All ties, in both team and individual and in both speed and score categories, receive equal points.

Where's a score is dropped in any given team, that score, though no longer eligable for the MVL submission points are still eligable for any BP they may have achieved.

Averages are calculated from the totals of submitted games divided by number of members in the team. If a player gives advanced notice of his inability to submit a game then that player will not be counted as a member of the team for purposes of calculating averages.

I will before the end of this round post a new thread that will be the MVL Rule Book. Where these changes and the rest of the rules will be outlined, but do refram from posting in that thread please.

The teams as of round 3 are,

The A-Team (A)
Pndrev
Piznit
Dethadder
Xei Win Toh
Ferrel
Dystopic

The Blade Runners (B)
Neilo
TGE
Ghostwes
MarshallOneill
Vilgan
Noctilucus

Celestial Crusaders (C)
Playjeff45
Mumblefratz
The Butterfly
Firebender
Silverbeacher

The Domination of Death (D)
Brezelius
Mottikhan
Shadow Worrior
Elwood011
Kzinti

And now round 3, and Firebender this should make you happy.

Each team is required to submit a victory in each of the 4 different conditions. Your team captain will assign each player a victory condition to complete.

3 opponents on a Medium map.

Habitable Planets - common
Planets - abundant
Stars - rare
Anomolies - abundant
Asteroids - rare (DA)
Tech Rate - normal
Density - Lose clusters

Random minors
All victory conditions enabled
Allow Surrenders
Tech trading on
Super abilities off
Blind exploration off
Mega Events enabled

For team B, which has 5 players, the captain should assign his 4 team mates 4 different victorys and then play a game attempting a victory condition of his own choosing. Now we never really discussed what happens next but my proposal is that the two games that are the same, the captains choice and one of his players, these games could be combined and averaged to give us 1 game instead of two. Provided they are both victories. This is not in concrete but a suggestion.

The other way we could go is to leave it up to the team in question to decide which game to sumbit.

Either way have fun with round 3 guys and i hope these new rule changes work out well for us.

Good luck,

The Commissioner.

metaverse
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Reply #251 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
We all know who won anyhow. Like there was even any doubt. I don't know why Firebender said the Crusaders did'nt take this round. He is taking candy from kids   Giving you all false hope. Maybe next time we will be dethroned.
Reply #252 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
i'm also an excel efficianado, i'd be happy to punch something out as well.
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This isn't rocket science. It's mostly addition with a little division. The act of having to enter all of the data into a spreadsheet is at least as time consuming and error prone as simply using a calculator.

This is WHY we have just the commissioner and vice-commish, so we DON'T have twenty chiefs in the room. IF there is a question on scoring or points afterwards, we can make a proper appeal to the Commissioner to check into it.
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While I agree with this statement per se, I dislike the way scoring has been treated as some super secret result that only the few that have been blessed with some arcane hidden knowledge are capable of deciphering. I am also somewhat annoyed by the intentional obfuscation of results for dramatic effect or by the intentional delay in the issuance of results for no apparent purpose.   

Like I said, none of this is more complicated than adding a few numbers and dividing by 4, 5 or 6. The biggest effort involved is actually collecting the data that is spread over a couple hundred posts and making sure you copied it correctly. Scoring is otherwise very simple and everyone should have complete understanding as to precisely how and why every point to every individual and team is awarded. Any system of publishing scores that is not totally verifiable by *everyone* in the League is unacceptable.   
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #253 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The act of having to enter all of the data into a spreadsheet is at least as time consuming and error prone as simply using a calculator.
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if the score data is textual, there's a good chance it can be ported into excel directly (thus reducing chances for human error). but indeed, it's not rocket science, and until there's further reason to suspect a problem in the system, i don't see much reason to dote on the issue any further.
Reply #254 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I await with anxious breath, but I think you're pulling our collective leg here.
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We all know who won anyhow. Like there was even any doubt. I don't know why Firebender said the Crusaders did'nt take this round. He is taking candy from kids   Giving you all false hope. Maybe next time we will be dethroned.
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Believe what you will. You'll all see for yourselves soon enough. I'm not pulling your leg. The real question is who placed 1st. But if it isn't the crusaders, who can it be...?


While I agree with this statement per se, I dislike the way scoring has been treated as some super secret result that only the few that have been blessed with some arcane hidden knowledge are capable of deciphering. I am also somewhat annoyed by the intentional obfuscation of results for dramatic effect or by the intentional delay in the issuance of results for no apparent purpose.
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Live a little.   

i'm also an excel efficianado, i'd be happy to punch something out as well.
This isn't rocket science.
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Whats so hard 'bout roket sighense?   Gimme a hard quaschen.
Reply #255 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Live a little.
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No.

There is a time and place for frivolity and this is neither. With the issues that we've had involving scoring the last thing we need is joking around.

I tend to cut you some slack because of your young age, and generally I do have to commend you for your effort and obvious intelligence and maturity for one so young, however there are many times when your obvious youth does become an impediment. I have no wish to stifle the natural exuberance of youth but on the other hand I don't wish to suffer the consequences that result from it. Please take scoring as the serious issue that it is.
Reply #256 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
i made a post on the MVL Discussion thread I would like all to read please

Thanks
Silver
Reply #257 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Live a little.

No.

There is a time and place for frivolity and this is neither. With the issues that we've had involving scoring the last thing we need is joking around.

I tend to cut you some slack because of your young age, and generally I do have to commend you for your effort and obvious intelligence and maturity for one so young, however there are many times when your obvious youth does become an impediment. I have no wish to stifle the natural exuberance of youth but on the other hand I don't wish to suffer the consequences that result from it. Please take scoring as the serious issue that it is.
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Long day at work?   I gotta go to Quebec tomorrow morning  
Reply #258 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Is the score really what matters in the MVL?
Reply #259 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Is the score really what matters in the MVL?
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No it's not the score that matters. I don't care about the score. The final score isn't the point of it at all. It's the rule of law that's important. We have discussed these things and decided to score in a certain way and then at the end it's done without regard to how it's been decided. I could care less about the actual score as long as it's derived fairly and consistently without having to continually go back over things that have already been discussed and decided.
Reply #260 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
What i hate is when the topic in question is across 3 threads...i thought i had commented on this here only to relize it was elsewhere.....oh well..

no point me making the same comments here too, i'm sure you all read the other threads...
Reply #261 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I just realized I have been spelling DOESN'T as DOES'NT and DON'T as DO'NT. And was never corrected. My English teacher sucked.
Reply #262 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Rest assured the dearly departed Wheel and Evil would have picked up on it.....they did'nt miss much in regards to gramar(sp).
I had more than one stoush with Wheel over such things.....

The fun we had.....
Reply #263 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
could someone point me to the metaverse round-4 thread?
Reply #264 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
SW, head over to the Player Roster and Sign Up Page and add your name to the list of committed to Round 4. I PMed Neilo earlier today but since he is 'Down Under' it won't be until morning before we get some more stuff organized. We are currently in the process of implementing a Draft round for the teams and we need to know exactly who is participating in the upcoming round. Thanks!
Reply #265 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Please move to this thread guys, its the round 4 draft and discussion thread.

Thanks,
The Commish.

MVL Round 4 Draft and Discussion