sorry but the game story has it wrong about Stargate's.

I'm not sure what you mean about the game story being wrong about stargates. The Drengin prepared for 70,000 years for the invasion of the Torians. Most of that time was due to their stargate needing that much time for its automated engines to bring them to the Torian star system. Once it was in place it shortened traveling time to a few months or something along those lines. Are you saying that once the stargate was in place travel should have been instantaneous and not just shorteniing a 70,000 year trip into a few months?

Um, what?

The gates are set up by each individual race. Gate technology would assumably be a natural step for each race to discover and then they would be able to communicate with other races to build a compatible gate?? or they would have to wait thousands of years for the transmission on how to build one to arrive.... similar scinario to the movie 'Contact'.

Yes the historical pre warp drive invasions etc etc in the story are a bit of a prickly pear to swollow logically.

They become a bit less difficult to swallow if you assume that the Drengin are indeed, very patient, possibly incredibly long lived (they sat around on Drengi for millenia with a world wide empire, I think the pursuit of immortality would come up once or twice), and were willing to look millenia ahead for the opportunity to conquer new lands.

Also...in like 70k years..wouldnt they have just ascended? or at least forgot about fighting the Torrians? That just takes a lot lot lot lot lot of hate.

[Ahem] (Fictional) reality check here. You are talking about...Drengin.
(The great Frog God did given them an alignment setting of...1...after all.)

drrider

(LOL at this whole debate on how the game creator's own backstory got the functional realities wrong for the stargates he invented as props for his story.)

Everyone likes a story that makes sense, otherwise you might get confused and think your reading a lame porno plot set up! or very low budget B grade movie made in Khazakstan!!!

The whole knowledge of this "wormholes" and spacetravels, is just based on theories.

who really knows?

till one person has made the first stargate and flow through it, I wouldn' care about what game creators think of a stargate. He just made a new Theory of his own, well try to prove that his theory is wrong^^ and please.... no new theories^^

-Stefan

When the game came out both the core and the expansion.... Stargate Movie and Series was out and they could have at least got some theories from there at least..... Pretty much a stargate transports stuff across a galaxy or a universe in a range between about .1 second to about 1 mins depending on the distance and the power required is greater then what is need for Hyper Engine so there it is better to go Hyper Engine by power but time wise Stargate..... I would take Stargate anyday of the week to travel since it is short but quick.... Stargates create an artifical wormhole in space to move stuff faster then light....... Sorry im a nerd when it come to science since it is neat at what u can learn for only being 17 years old.....

i am not arguing that the Stargate is better than the hyper drive.

it takes forever and a day to get the gates installed. but then it is instant travel between gates. that is the problem you have to travel between gates.


the hyper drive on the other hand is slower the gate system after the gates are installed. but you can go wherever you want to.

Alpha Centauri is 4.37 LY away. Soo... even if we're asuming that we're going at a measly .1c that's still just 40ish years away...

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actually this has been brought up before. I think you, like many other people, are confusing GC "Stargates" with the TV show/movie.

I beleive Brad has actually stated elswhere that his gates do not allow instant travel from point a to point b, like Stargate. rather the GC hyperspace stargates took care of traving at hyperspace for the spaceship, ie the ship could now move 1 square per turn (game wise). original concept, the older races did not have the tech to shrink hyperspace drives onto a ship, ships only had standard reaction/sub-hyperspace drive (however you like to term it).

Think of the stargates as a highway system. Just because you have a stargate between Altair and Toria doesn't mean it takes no time to use it. Think of it as an Interglactic Highway, you still have to "drive" from Toria from Altair, but now the can go "65" instead of "35".

GC has tweaked the "common" rules about "Stargates" to suit their purposes. It's not perfect, but if you remove fictional TV show tech from a great fictional computer game it makes a lot more sense.

Alpha Centauri is about four-light years away. There’s a lot of empty space between us and this star. If you imagine Earth as small as a grain of sand, then Alpha Centauri would still be over 10 kilometers—or about 6 miles—away. Yet Alpha Centauri is the nearest star to our sun!

The only rockets now used to fly people into space are those like our American space shuttle. Shuttles travel only a few hundred kilometers into space. Again, if Earth were the size of a sand grain, this would be about the width of a hair in contrast to the 10 kilometers to Alpha Centauri. One would need about 10,000 shuttle main engines in sequence just to build up a decent speed (say, 1/100th light speed). So space shuttles are far from being star ships. About the closest vehicles we have to star ships currently are the Voyager spacecraft—launched from Earth 20 years ago—and now heading out of the solar system. The Voyagers aren’t aimed toward Alpha Centauri, but if they were, they’d take about 50,000 years to get there.

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ok sorry i see where i got the 50,000 years from.

the only other show with gates was bab 5 and those were called hyper gates not stargates.

i still play the game.

but if i had a choose to travel the highway or go where ever i wanted. in space i think i would go where ever i wanted.

There's a whole world of science fiction out there that's existed for 50+ years before the Stargate movie. A star gate (by that name and others) is not a new sci-fi concept original to the Stargate movie, and in any case, other fictional universes aren't obligated or expected to follow the same fictional rules.



Well, yeah, but that would make GC2 a very different game, gameplay-wise.

Actually, you have your dates mixed up. The original GalCiv came out in 1993, a year before the movie Stargate.



The back story says that by being confined to their planets, with out the advent of fusion power the civilizations stagnated. It wasn't until the humans invented fusion power that the others managed to get out of their technological rut.



You are crossing ideas between "universes", and expecting GalCiv to comply with ideas put forward by other franchises. In the GalCiv universe Stargates don't provide instant transport, and that is all that matters. Your argument makes as much sense as insisting that the Battlestar Galactica tie in with Star Trek.

Yeah, how come the federation in Star Trek is doing so well when humanity has been wiped out by the Cylons?

I don't get it, your arguing over the realities of something that doesn't exist.
Might be slightly futile.

Anyway, It's only a game guys, Artistic license surely applies.

because the federation is based in the 13th colony. it was the other 12 colonies that were wiped out by the cylons.


remember their trying to get to earth.

Ok well you see theres your problem. You dont pay for the stargates until they're functional. SO you deposit like 1 BC in your account now. and in 50,000 years when the gates are up and running you're sure to have enough in your account to pay for it AND maybe have a little left over to got to a nice restuarant. watch the universe implode over desert.


MAYBE the cylons are the borg? Maybe GalCiv2 should have Q as a mega event.

The origin of the galactic civilization stargates is actually a fair bit earlier then that. As Draginol mentioned here WWW Link the galactic civilizations universe originated from a series of manuscripts he wrote in the late 1980's and early 1990's so it's safe to assume that the star gates preceded the movie by a sizable margin.

Hmmmmm.

Hmmmmm.



And where's Dr Who while all this is going on.
Some hero last minute savior he turned out to be, Bloody Skiver.

Very true. I was just addressing the comment of "The Game" (which some of you may have just now lost) coming out after the movie.

he is where he always is lost in time.


and ontop of all of that he usually only saves earth.

He disintegrated the 23rd time he used it ......

"We now return control of your tv set .... "