ya and playing to the end helps u figure out wat u did wrong and how to fix it

This is the reason, I have started my last game on the metaverse (after never having cared about it before) Gives me an incentive to finish the game

Thanks for the feedback.

That's what influence victory is for: to end games you have already won.

I play to the end solely for the chance how long my empire's dominance will reign and seeing who or what will try to rise up and (foolishly) challenge me!

One of the options for a military victory should relate to how much agony a player
must go through in mopping up. So far I have only had a few AI surrender before losing their last planet.

In the game of Empire Deluxe and its later version EDIE and EDEE, you can set the victory conditions. I think an option should be available where the AI will surrender if has lost 75-90% of its maximum planets (or population, whatever).

The more choices the happier we will be--I think.

lol....the enemy should also have like a option tht makes them want peace after so long when the war you or they started is going no where

Boy, I play a different style than you guys. I love just manage large empires and will often disable influence victories just because I they end the game just as I am really starting to enjoy it. I enjoy creating a balanced and vibrant economy and find crushing other civs under my heels to be annoying and wasteful. Frequently 80% of my game is after I could have easily won.

Scincerely,
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Gosh, Scintor, what difficulty level are you playing? In my games at Crippling and Maso, there is essentially no chance that an Influence victory is going to stop things before my economy is matured. Gotta GET the economy matured to have a chance at an Influence victory.

Of course, sometimes somebody ELSE may end the game via Influence before my empire is mature and stable, but those games are essentially lost no matter what.

drrider

I prefer to play on a level playing field, so I stay away from the higher levels where the AIs get considerable bonuses. I also play exclusively in gigantic, abundant everything galaxies. Most games take 100+ hours of playing time to finish. I realize that most players would not enjoy the play style that I like, but I really enjoy the fact that the game supports a large number of playstyles.
So, yes I play a very different style than you do.

Scicerely,

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I'm curious, where do you set your research rate on games like that? Very Slow?

Yes I do! Otherwise the tech goes so fast the ships are obsolete before you can produce them.

Scincerely,
Scintor

scintor m8 i play just like you...only i have the biggest f!@#ing galaxy u can have at very fast speed!     

Have you guys tried playing Civ4 yet? I left Civ4 for Galciv2 for that very reason: cause it's slooooow.

By the way, that's another reason why I don't trust the Metaverse scores. If you end a "won" game, what should the score be? And how much can people doctor their scores after the game's already "won"?

Civ4 is good...but i liked Civ3 a hell of a lot better.....GalCiv2 is better than both of them...i dont really think you can doctor your scores...the only thing you can do to modify it is by picking which games to submit to metaverse

I play to the end for a number of reasons. The first and most important is basically one of personality. I find the AI style to be one of chaos. They colonize all over the place, messing up your influence area, making it all splotchy. The way they buildup their own planets is haphazard as well. They pretty much buildup their planets any old way whereas I will always build my starport near my initial colony where it belongs and keep all my factories in a bunch near each other and it annoys me to no end when they build super projects and wonders on bonus tiles. Even if they are bonus tiles that I have no intention of ever using I would still allow myself the possibility of using them by not building wonders or super projects on them.

I suppose if the AI were more ordered in it's colonization and buildup of planets then I would be more likely to be able to tolerate their very existence and consider other victory conditions besides military conquest. But such is not the case. I look at my victory over the AI as the victory of order over chaos and I can't really stop myself from not only conquering them to the very last planet but also rebuilding each and every one of their planets from the offensive manner in which they build them into ones more proper for human habitation.

BTW. I loved the original Civilization but never liked the diagonal view of Civ 2 and hence never played Civ 2 or any of the other follow ons. I did play Civilization until 2001 when I was essentially forced onto XP and Civilization (as well as many other old games) would no longer work.