Huge problem, most powerfull in galaxy and my approval is dropping 2% every week.

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Ok this is extremely odd. I have a save before this happened and after, I essentialy colonized 15% of the galaxy and fully developed it these colonies, my civ was about 10x what the other AI's were, and this was on a harder setting.

I really just wanted to make it a point to build up defenses before going to war with anyone. Anyway shortly after I stationed a ship in one of my 80 colonies (I know gamesettings were unfriendsly to the AI). I switched from imperial dicatorship to democracy, suddenly approval started to drop, so I opted to change governments as that's the last thing I had done.

The senate didn't go for it as my approval was already so low, for no apperent reason. In any case, the idea was it was no longer economicaly beneficial to be a democracy, so I pumped my approval up to 100%, losing 10 trillion credits a day. This lasted for a few weeks and finally the senate voted in my favor.

Yet my approval continued to drop. I started to build 4-7 virtual reality centers on about 40 of the 80 colonies that were the least happy. This helped them for a turn or two but did not last long.

Finally I just quite.

I'm completly boggled as to the cause of this sudden government hate, espetialy considering the dicatorship made the empire 10x more powerfull than all the others.

No mega events were active I can assure that.

The only ideas besides the above events could have been, overcrowding though I am not sure the game takes that into account, or lack of social and military production. (I bought the VR centers outright anyway, and social production or "jobs" didn't seem to have an effect on the planets I did try that out on, but perhapse it was just not for long enough.)

Anyway, does anyone have a solution to this crazyness?

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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
It sounds like you let your populations get too big. Your people can breed up to a point where your morale will just drop to around 40%, and if you are moving the tax slider you might end up with a morale closer to 20%. If your population per world was around 22billion, you would have needed 20 VR centers, not 4-5 to counteract the effects.

To get around this problem, never build more than 1 farm per planet, and never use any population bonus tiles. This should keep most of your populations in the 12-13billion mark, which is very easy to handle approval wise. When you get more experience, you can start to play around with trying larger populations than that.

Large populations (larger than 13b per planet) is the easiest explanation to what you saw. If your populations aren't that large, I'm not sure what is going on.

Hope that helps.

Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If you were running a debt too long, your approval would also have been dropping. If your treasury is in the negative for too long, you start get approval hits.
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
No that was definitly the problem, it turns out population disaproval skyrockets after 20 billion.

I tested this by making an all farm/VR planet to sell to an AI in a new game, so I could use the planet purely for trade.

The fact I thought it was changing government types and wanting to move it back to democracy by having 100% approval only worstened the situation, I had 100% approval when I ALREADY had too many people. Then this went on until the senate voted my way. The population just got bigger and bigger.

The great thing though is that approval only affects population and senate votes.

I kid you not I was targeting almost all of my 80 or so planets to have a population of 40-60 billion.

Now that makes sense.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Also I was floating ridiculous amounts of credits so even losing 10 trillion a week I never went negative.

thanks though.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
No problem. If you destroy extra farms on planets you can lower your populations quickly.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Wee, government sponsored mass murder!
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
It's for the greater good
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I had an issue when I lost 1 bil when I upgraded a troop transport because I got advance troops that holds more, so upgraded the transport ship and when had 1 bil in the ship, went to a max system of 6 bil and lost a bil while grabbing the other bil...
system had 6, ship had 1, but landed and lost the bil, total was only 6 bil, so when left had 4 bil on planet and 2 bil on ship......

killing hundreds of billions and billions of people just seems very wrong. I hope you like the dark side....

there is the extra benefit of computer having a much harder time taking huge populace systems.....
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Here's a trick for you if you want your empire-wide AR to sky-rocket!

Step 1. Quicksave (in case it backfires) 
Step 2. raise taxes to 100% and lower spending to 0.
Step 3. spend two turns (cross your fingers)
Step 4. drop your taxes back to ~25-30% and increase spending.

You'll have (if it worked) and imediate boost of AR to nearly 100% and your economy with go through the roof!  

Be sure and do Step 1 though, sometimes your empire will suscede from you!   If that happens, reload and try again. The empire's response is different after reload.
Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I know that this is off topic, but I've just ordered the digital download of Dark Avatar, installed the Stardock software, and have received my serial number. But no download instructions. No response from Stardock, nothing. Can anyone help me.

Thanks, Terry
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
You download and install via Stardock Central, and you don't need to input your serial number. First make sure you uncheck the Show Pre release Versions, and check the Archive option. Then install. Games is where you want to be to install.

Dark Avatar 1.6 beta 4 has some 'issues'.

I hope that helps you.