NLC's and Industrial Sectors broke my economy
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In my current DA 1.50.72 fastest-tech maso game I for the first time allowed my planets to build "ultimate" production and research buildings: Neutrality Learning Centers and Industrial Sectors. Those two combined changed my financial state dramatically, and for the worse. Let me explain that a bit more.
Im most my games I build my planets by a simple rule of thumb: 1/4 of every kind of buildings: 1/4 factories, 1/4 labs, 1/4 banks and 1/4 for other purposes (colony center, 1 morale, 1 farm, starport, specialization, "wonders"...). In DA with nerfed factories I sligtly increased amount of them to ~30%. My usual spending sliders settings are 1%/49%/50%, and in late mid game, when my core ~20 planets achieve maturity (all tiles used with the latest kind of buildings, but not NLCs and ISs), I'm usually flowing in money. At that time I usually have in possession at least one of each kind of galactic resources, ofc. most of them fully mined.
My current game went about the same way, but then I decided to build NLCs first, and after them also the ISs. Since both cost a lot of money (=time to build) I decreased my research slider from 50% to 30%. The first effect I noticed when first NLCs on bonus tiles came on-line was a drop in income: all of a sudden I couldn't spend money for spies. Playing as a Kryn that sounds silly, but that was just a consequence of moving from Reseach Academies with 14 TP output to NLCs with 22. To alleviate that I had to lower my research slider for another 5%, but that was just a temporary solution. Since more and more more NLS were built, they required more and more money to feed ther enormous output. So I increased taxes from 69% to 79%. That helped, but when my planets started producing ISs, my financial situation again went to worse. Those ISs cost lots of money to maintain and require 20% more money to feed their production. Just from five HWs I currentely possess (that have the usuall infrastructure: manuf. capital, Quantum power plant and ~5 ISs and one-two starbases for support) I get so much production I can not afford to fincance it.
Here's my current situation:
- I'm running taxes at 71% to allow newly conquered planets to grow at 100% approval, producing 8300BC from taxes,
- I have Federation as government,
- my econ ability is at 108%, morale 174% and research 133%,
- 3 turns ago I had an econ treaty worth 200BC with Altarians, the third strongest econ,
- all my older planets have Stock Markets, on most newly conquered I'm building financial buildings exclusively, even converting other buildings into it,
- all my trade routes (11) are active, bringing measly 340BC, with potential of ~800 (my financial capital brings 340, average planet at 9B pop ~200),
- my empire produces 370BC from turism,
- my espionage spending is turned off, my research is all-time high despite its slider is at 21%, several production-heavy planets are turned off (nothing in military queue), but
- I'm still barely runing positive income, as that dozen of newly conquered planets with 1-2B pop costs me ~40BC to have each.
Solution: win ASAP.
In the mean time I'm:
- growing pop at 100% approval on most planets to make those new planets pay for themself ASAP,
- converting some ISs into Stock markets,
- converting other buildings on conquered planets into Banks/Stock Markets/Trade centers, covering empty tiles with Trade Centers, and
- researching the latest morale tech to build the only one morale "wonder" I don't have yet, to increase taxes back to 79%.
Conclusion
My "1/4" model does not allow me tu fully utilize those ultimate buildings. In future games I'll need much more econ buildings before I can afford too build NLCs and ISs. The best approach will probably be to
- build lately-gained planets into econ planets (most econ buildings), and
- on "old" planets to convert one of existing research and one production buildig on most planets to Stock Markets, before actually building there NLCs and ISs.
BR, Iztok
In my current DA 1.50.72 fastest-tech maso game I for the first time allowed my planets to build "ultimate" production and research buildings: Neutrality Learning Centers and Industrial Sectors. Those two combined changed my financial state dramatically, and for the worse. Let me explain that a bit more.
Im most my games I build my planets by a simple rule of thumb: 1/4 of every kind of buildings: 1/4 factories, 1/4 labs, 1/4 banks and 1/4 for other purposes (colony center, 1 morale, 1 farm, starport, specialization, "wonders"...). In DA with nerfed factories I sligtly increased amount of them to ~30%. My usual spending sliders settings are 1%/49%/50%, and in late mid game, when my core ~20 planets achieve maturity (all tiles used with the latest kind of buildings, but not NLCs and ISs), I'm usually flowing in money. At that time I usually have in possession at least one of each kind of galactic resources, ofc. most of them fully mined.
My current game went about the same way, but then I decided to build NLCs first, and after them also the ISs. Since both cost a lot of money (=time to build) I decreased my research slider from 50% to 30%. The first effect I noticed when first NLCs on bonus tiles came on-line was a drop in income: all of a sudden I couldn't spend money for spies. Playing as a Kryn that sounds silly, but that was just a consequence of moving from Reseach Academies with 14 TP output to NLCs with 22. To alleviate that I had to lower my research slider for another 5%, but that was just a temporary solution. Since more and more more NLS were built, they required more and more money to feed ther enormous output. So I increased taxes from 69% to 79%. That helped, but when my planets started producing ISs, my financial situation again went to worse. Those ISs cost lots of money to maintain and require 20% more money to feed their production. Just from five HWs I currentely possess (that have the usuall infrastructure: manuf. capital, Quantum power plant and ~5 ISs and one-two starbases for support) I get so much production I can not afford to fincance it.
Here's my current situation:
- I'm running taxes at 71% to allow newly conquered planets to grow at 100% approval, producing 8300BC from taxes,
- I have Federation as government,
- my econ ability is at 108%, morale 174% and research 133%,
- 3 turns ago I had an econ treaty worth 200BC with Altarians, the third strongest econ,
- all my older planets have Stock Markets, on most newly conquered I'm building financial buildings exclusively, even converting other buildings into it,
- all my trade routes (11) are active, bringing measly 340BC, with potential of ~800 (my financial capital brings 340, average planet at 9B pop ~200),
- my empire produces 370BC from turism,
- my espionage spending is turned off, my research is all-time high despite its slider is at 21%, several production-heavy planets are turned off (nothing in military queue), but
- I'm still barely runing positive income, as that dozen of newly conquered planets with 1-2B pop costs me ~40BC to have each.
Solution: win ASAP.
In the mean time I'm:- growing pop at 100% approval on most planets to make those new planets pay for themself ASAP,
- converting some ISs into Stock markets,
- converting other buildings on conquered planets into Banks/Stock Markets/Trade centers, covering empty tiles with Trade Centers, and
- researching the latest morale tech to build the only one morale "wonder" I don't have yet, to increase taxes back to 79%.
Conclusion
My "1/4" model does not allow me tu fully utilize those ultimate buildings. In future games I'll need much more econ buildings before I can afford too build NLCs and ISs. The best approach will probably be to
- build lately-gained planets into econ planets (most econ buildings), and
- on "old" planets to convert one of existing research and one production buildig on most planets to Stock Markets, before actually building there NLCs and ISs.
BR, Iztok
