Ships don't really need enormous acceleration. It's *HyperDrive*, space is folded    And actually it's 22nd century, and that's not what the story says - and gravity compensators turned to hyperdrives? Don't know which is worst...    So hulls get grav comp turned to HDs, they still need grav comps, and you can add extra drives. Sounds good. Heh.

LOL i can just hear the drums. but to get it to really work you'll need to research oars II.

actually its WARPdrive that folds space, hyperdrive just goes ZOOOoooom fast.

and you will need acceleration because you can't initiate hyperdrive or warp in the gravity well of a planet. so you'll need to get away from it speedy quick. zoom zoom.

anyway if any of you have girlfriends or wives DO NOT let them read this thread, you'll NEVER get near them again, you may as well ask them to play D&D with you. LOL

Perhaps you should read the tech descriptions before commenting?
You should also read posts before commenting, I said *enormous* acceleration. The grav comps?! Gee.

The Arceans may have invented the means to build a hyperdrive, but they didn't use it now, did they? Terrans did that.
It's like the ancient Greeks inventing the steam engine. Okay, fine. Too bad it was the Victorians who exploited it, without whom there'd be no industrial age.

So my point about dirty smelly inferior aliens stands. The mere fact that these aliens had stargates for thousands of years and didn't do jack with it proves their inferiority!
Humanity #1! Hail Terra! Fall on your knees, xeno scum!* Etc.

*Assuming the aliens in question have knees or in fact any sort of leg.

Paddle I
Paddle II
Paddle III
Oar I
Oar II
Oar III
HyperOar I...

and so on.

We all need more rewarding lives, IMHO!

Yeah thats why I love to read the post.....the humor.  

So you're rewriting the background story, eh?



They only do what the writer lets them do     It's a story, you know.

Oh well, girls just cheat on you anyway. The internet is the way to go!!

Hey, has anyone modded the green-skinned slave girl from Star Trek as a race portrait? That would be the ultimate GalCiv girl!

What about 7 of 9!!!!!! Hubba hubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Begin assimilation process woman!!!!!!!!!

Lol I forgot waht the post was about already lol Oh yeah ships with out hyperdrive..But when you custom creat a race can you give them a faster drive??

If you want to see a complete and total warping of discussion, check out "Video games are anti-social and addictive." That turned into a religious slug fest no thanks to me.

Alright, since ToS Iceman doesn't like my grav compensator idea, how about this - the lonely all-male crews of the GalCiv starships are attracted to the women of different planets. This attraction acts like magnetism to move the ships, thus allowing a ship with no engines to move!

"How much for the women? Your wife? The little girl? We want to buy them!"
- The Blues Brothers

I helped...if by helping I can mean throwing kerosene on a fire.

That's definetely it.

Hmm, you mean you would feel attracted to a Thalan female?! That's nice, but I guess the VR modules in starships are more attractive. To me at least, but I guess we all have our secrets   

That'll work, they just always project the females the crew finds attractive in the direction they wish to go.

So then instead of thrusters I guess we would have... hip thrusters?
Or take it one further and allow the 'family jewels' to get involved and maybe we could have some sort of kinetics applied to the equasion?

No, pelvic thrusts.

"Let's do the Time Warp again!"
-Rocky Horror Picture Show

...which leads to more propulsion ideas...



Clearly, you haven't met my wife...

Back to nitpicking   
Take the example of a tiny hull: Space 16, Cost 25. Now consider that a basic HyperDrive has Size 12 and Cost 30. So the hull is actually CHEAPER than the drive, and it ALREADY includes one... not to mention that the drive is almost as big as the free space on the hull! How's that for a contradiction?! Now add a free life support and a couple of sensors, which is what the base stats for the HULL imply, and you've got yourself an EXCELLENT bargain buying a simple hull. No wonder you hardly need some of the components available...

Well, the space could be the space available after all those other components were built in. Maybe a truely empty tiny hull (speed=0, etc...) would have space 30? As for cost, well that is simple. The tiny hulls are mass produced, this drives down costs. Adding components is like placing a special order, or having your car customized. Yeah, I know am blowing a lot of hot air, but it is just a game.

That would imply that when you research better milestone engines, free space would be different. It's not.   Same for costs.
The "hidden" point however, was that the "bonus" components are what actually kill the usefulness of the actual components. Removes some of the attractiveness of building ships, and the actual sense in some of the techs.