New Video Card Needed

I am currently playing with an AGP 8X 128MB ATI Radeon 9600SE. I am looking to upgrade that a bit, but I don't have all _that_ much cash to spend. I am willing to spend up to US$80...

The problem is that I don't know anything about video cards anymore! In poking around a bit, I've noticed that some cards will actually take RAM from my system and use it for the video processing. My instinct is to simply go with an upgraded version of what I've got; I've found a Radeon 9600PRO 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card for a really nice price. But I don't know if that would be better enough for my needs. Anyone have any advice?
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If you're stuck with AGP and a budget of $80, your best bet is a Radeon 9600XT (newegg has one for $62, but the reviews show that quality on that particular board may be hit and miss--it's up to you). The XT models are clocked 25% higher than the PRO version. I used a gigabyte 9600XT myself for several years, and it ran GC2 beautifully.
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Thanks! I just placed an order. I am so looking forward to seeing GC2 actually run smoothly and pretty...
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Bummer I did'nt see it sooner, I just upgraded to a X1950Pro I would of sold you my X1600 Pro 512mb for $100.00 shipped. If your interested drop me a line. I can do Paypal.
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Well...
I just put in my order, and I don't do paypal. But thanks for the offer all the same!
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I would like a new video card too. I have an HP P4 3.2 with 1 gig mem but an old
Radeon X300 card (PCI-express). But many of the cards require a lot of power
But my HP power supply is 300 watts and even though it is an ATX, I am told that the screw holes won't line up with replacement power supplies. I am not much into modding my computer. Many of the video cards claim they want 400 watts total. Some have no information.

Not sure whether to take a chance with an upgraded video card and see if the power supply can handle it or not. If I lose, I suppose I could fry the system.
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I suppose I could fry the system.


Nope. The worst that would happen is that the card would fail to function properly. A 300 watt HP supply should handle all but the most greedy cards.
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The worst that would happen is that the card would fail to function properly.


If you ask too much of a PSU, it is possible to damage it or cause it to fail prematurely. And while some PSUs go out with a whimper, some also go out with a bang...   
Reply #8 Top
Goodness!
PSI issues were something I'd not thought about. Will my new card require much more power than the old?
Reply #9 Top
It shouldn't, at least not enough to worry about.
Reply #10 Top
Hrm, I wish I had seen this sooner. A GeForce 6600GT probably would've done you really well for ~$93 from Newegg (AGP). I know it's about $10 over, but it would be worth it.

It would also be helpful to know what your processor is and how much RAM you have, so we can get an idea of where the bottleneck (if any) might be.

-HM
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Nope. The worst that would happen is that the card would fail to function properly. A 300 watt HP supply should handle all but the most greedy cards.


i have a 255 watt PS and it's running a radeon X600 and a pentium D. how it's running them is beyond me, but whatever.

since this is sort of on the subject, it's a low profile system (a dell xps200), and i think the power supply was made so low to avoid overheating. i want to upgrade to an x1600pro (which seems to be the best low profile card available), but i'm worried it'd need more power (especially since the 600 is cooled by heatsinks, and the 1600s i've seen all have fans).

the low profile design doesn't leave much room. i'm worried that upgrading the power will create more heat, despite the fact that i'm sure dell used a very poor stock fan on the current PS. so that means i need new fans, but the only space is for an 85mm frontside intake fan. has anyone seen any 3.5 bay fans? my small bay is currently unused. stupid dell. i've seen PCI slot fans, but not for an LP design, and i've only got one PCI-e X1 slot to spare, which i was hoping to save for a TV card.

anyway, some advice would definately be appriciated.
Reply #12 Top
Your going from a 9600SE to a 9600XT, the power supply probably won't even notice the difference.
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But my HP power supply is 300 watts and even though it is an ATX, I am told that the screw holes won't line up with replacement power supplies.


That's a crock of crap! I have two HP's and the 700w Gamextreme slid right in and lined up no problem. I had the same issues as you with regards to buying a new card that required at least 400w so I upgraded the ps. Now I have a TON of extra juice for the future and no worries about lack of power during heavy PC sessions. It was worth the 150.00 for the power supply. If you plan on upgrading your PC in the future, make the investment. Just make sure the mobo is upgradeable enough to your liking before wasting the money.
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. i'm worried that upgrading the power will create more heat, despite the fact that i'm sure dell used a very poor stock fan on the current PS. so that means i need new fans,


Most ps's come with a built in fan so there shouldn't be a problem so long as you can fit it into the case.
Reply #15 Top
Silly question:
Will a better video card help me rip DVDs faster? Or is that purely a CPU function? And it suddenly occurs to me that even asking that question might be illegal...
Reply #16 Top
A faster video card will not help speed up video or audio ripping.

-HM
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w00t!
The card arrived, the card is installed, the new drivers are downloaded and.. the game crashed. I was using a save game, does that matter?
Reply #18 Top
I would like a new video card too. I have an HP P4 3.2 with 1 gig mem but an old
Radeon X300 card (PCI-express). But many of the cards require a lot of power
But my HP power supply is 300 watts and even though it is an ATX, I am told that the screw holes won't line up with replacement power supplies. I am not much into modding my computer. Many of the video cards claim they want 400 watts total. Some have no information.


If it is a standard mid tower case like my HP, the mounting holes will line up fine.
I have a HP Media Center PC m7360n, and I have replaced the stock 300W with a Thermaltake 460W - which I did because I replaced the stock video card.

It is highly doubtful that your power supply uses non-standard mounting.
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The card arrived, the card is installed, the new drivers are downloaded and.. the game crashed. I was using a save game, does that matter?

Did you do an uninstall of the old drivers through Add/Remove Programs, reboot, then install the new drivers?
Or did you install them over the top of the old ones?



Reply #20 Top
since this is sort of on the subject, it's a low profile system (a dell xps200), and i think the power supply was made so low to avoid overheating. i want to upgrade to an x1600pro (which seems to be the best low profile card available), but i'm worried it'd need more power (especially since the 600 is cooled by heatsinks, and the 1600s i've seen all have fans).

The ps will generate more heat if it is at or near its max output than a higher wattage unit would do if it were running at 50-60%. You will get more heat from the video card, though. If that 85mm fan is already present and there is no room for another, the better fan in the newer power supply might be enough. If the 85mm is not installed, installing it would give plenty of cooling.

I don't know of any low profile slot fans.
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Did you do an uninstall of the old drivers through Add/Remove Programs, reboot, then install the new drivers?


I sure did! What I hadn't done was reboot it a second time to let the new settings settle in. It's now running just fine. And the game looks _outstanding_...
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And the game looks _outstanding_...


Glad you solved it!