Getting an Alliance Victory

Easy under specific circumstances?

I like the Alliance Victory, but found them hard to achieve (playing DL, large maps, tough). Now that 'tough' is getting easier for me, I noticed a couple of things.

First, a (very) high military score (say 300) really makes a positive difference in their attitude towards you. For a couple of games I tried looking at the plusses and minusses in the faction report to improve areas where their attitude was negative towards me. This didn't work very well. Now I'm just being an overall 'nice guy', leading to positive attitudes regarding trade, historic friendship and so on. I combine this approach with an uber military score and suddenly the majority of the races, regardless border proximity or ethics want to be my allies.

The second thing I have found is that this only works for a true 'nice guy' approach. In my last game I had a couple of alliances and some on close so I could end the game, but was continuing to do some experiments. I had this shiny uberfleet and I thought it was just a shame that I never use it. So I sent it over to the Thalans. The Thalans were soon crushed and their planets ruined (I abandoned the colonies to prevent an influence victory). However, the result of this was that the other factions didn't like me so much anymore and I could not get their attitudes to previous levels (can I get the 'historic friendship' back?). I can't get them any closer than friendly.

So it seems that alliances can be hard to achieve if you've been through a (couple) of war(s) and faction relationships get temporarily messed up.

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Reply #1 Top
Yeah, I used to go for alliance victories, but as a neutral player it was just to easy. I only take an alliance victory if I have personally eliminated 50% of the other civilizations.
Reply #2 Top
generally i pick only 1 ally for the entire game and wipe everyone else out. might bring a 3rd civ into the alliance if they're currently fighting the same enemies, have the same alignment, and if they're relations are good with the other ally.
Reply #3 Top
The Alliance Victory seems to be a difficult concept to implement. It either seems to difficult or too hard. It's a shame, because I like this type of victory; defeat some bad guys, make some friends, live happily ever after.

It's better than the technological victory, you continue existing as enlightened energy beings. I'd rather have a beer in the pub after my adventures.
It's also better than an influence victory. Even though the victory is sweet because you can defeat an enemy without even getting a scratch on your latest battle-cruiser, don't let your friends know you've defeated your adversaries by employing superior fashion designers.