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This is the buggiest web site that I've ever seen

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Perhaps it's just my crappy PC or perhaps I need to format my hard drive and reinstall XP and all of my apps, but these forums are the buggiest site on the internet that I've ever seen.

At this point I seem to be working OK but I had to disable active X scripting in order to get any stability whatsoever. Even then I'm pretty much forced onto forums.stardock.com because forums.galciv2.com either crashes, or can't find the server, or I get object moved messages.

This doesn't seem to happen nearly so much at work where I have a 3.2 GHz Xeon, but I still get the occasional crash there due to pngfilt.dll. Anyway, I still have to wonder why it's so necessary to have a top line machine and/or be required to use firefox or any of the other of a myriad suggestions that I've been given to address the problem.

For God's sake all I'm trying to do is access the internet and make a post ot two. If you can't do that with a vanilla PC running IE6 then something's drastically wrong. What is the tremendous bandwidth or processing need that's required to simply surf a website. And this is the only website that I've ever had any issue with whatsoever. This is pretty annoying. I wish you would fix it.
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Reply #26 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I used to get this a lot with IE6 before the site upgrade.

I haven't noticed it much since the site upgrade, but then again I have switched to firefox 2.0 as my default on both of my computers (for reasons other than just this site). Since my work computer still has IE6 sp2, I went and tested it. It appears to be fine. The IE7 upgrade can be problematic, but if you are on a pre SP2 version of IE6, that might be worth try...Of course, it could always be some common local environmental issue.
Reply #27 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If you can't do that with a vanilla PC running IE6 then something's drastically wrong


Obviously using Internet Exploder is what's wrong, not the site it self.
Can't believe there's gamers out there that haven't changed to FF, I can understand workplaces that are forced towards standards, but the average gaming home users should have changed ship long ago.

Firefox 2.0 is great, works like a charm. No complaints.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

I've never had an issue with this site.



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Reply #28 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Obviously using Internet Exploder is what's wrong, not the site it self

No. It's my 900 Mhz Celeron that's the problem, which will soon be replaced. When I get my new PC I'll let folks know the results.

If Firefox 2.0 works for you than I'm happy for you. But 99% of the rest of the world is on IE, so websites *do* have a vested interest (and obligation) of making sure that IE works.
Reply #29 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I do find annoying that editing your own posts can result often into a error screen. By error screen I mean the screen "your not logged in". Also posting links/pictures can be frustrating at times. They do work, but when you edit a post, they tend to get screwd :/

Btw 23% of web surfers are using FireFox nowdays (according to research companies), so the above statement is not totally correct. Also M$ has acknowledget that some sites have difficulties with the new IE7
Reply #30 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
OK. But even if *only* 77% of the world uses IE, I don't think any website can ignore this demographic.

The errors I have had far exceed simple editing of posts, but as I've said at least three times in this thread it's most likely my 900 MHz celeron that's the issue. I have far less issues with the same IE6 on XP Pro SP2 on my 3.5 GHz Xeon at work.

Now will everyone stop telling me to use Firefox and let this thread die. Thank you.
Reply #31 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
so websites *do* have a vested interest (and obligation) of making sure that IE works.


I do not agree at all here.
It is MicroSoft who has an obligation to have their browser conform with the W3C standards instead of some obscure MSnetwork dito.

As for the rest,,I should mention that I'm on a tweaked SP2 using Firefox 1,5,0,8 run on a AthlonXP 2800+ with 1Gb RAM.


Oh Mumblefratz,,start using FireFox!
Reply #33 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oh Mumblefratz,,start using FireFox!


Do you folks work on commission?

Anyone who has 77% of the market by the most conservative estimate can define whatever standard they like. That's why it's called a monopoly.   

So this Firefox of which you speak. Is it free? If not, does that mean that everyone that suggested I use Firefox is offering to buy it for me?   
Reply #34 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Is it free?


Yes.
Reply #35 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Is it free?


Yes.


You know you're making it awful difficult to complain.   
Reply #36 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Mumble... Mumble... FF is your friend, really...

I am all for Microsoft making bizillions of dollars but FF is a better browser IMHO.
Reply #37 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Anyone who has 77% of the market by the most conservative estimate can define whatever standard they like. That's why it's called a monopoly.


Well,,only to a certain extent.
See,,it wasn't M$ who made the HTML standard...they only made a program to display it.
They certainly never had anything close 70% of the market for HTML-editors.

You know you're making it awful difficult to complain.


Open Source is your friend!
Reply #38 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
See,,it wasn't M$ who made the HTML standard...they only made a program to display it.

Yeah. But what happened to Java. IIRC didn't Sun invent and define Java only to have Microsoft come along and bastardize it.   

But anyway, if FF is both better and free it's difficult to argue against. I'm convinced. Just let the beatings stop.   
Reply #39 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Sorry Mumble. I'm jumping ship too. The errors haven't stopped and every way I've tried to get IE to update to 7 has failed, so I'm going to give FF a try. If this turns out like the last time I tried an alternative browser though, I'll come back a flaming.  
Reply #40 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Another IE user converted

I have been using FF for years now and never been happier. Plus side is that you can custom your FF browser the ways IE users only dream of. If your choose to do so, ofcourse. Give FF 2.0 a try, it really is a good browser.
Reply #41 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I like IE just the way it is.

I have no dreams of customizing it in any way.

I have tried FF, and didn't really care for it all that much.

To each his own, I guess. I have IE7 now, and am fine with it. This site does give errors sometimes though, and more than any other site I go to. 'Server Not Found' is fairly common. And that seems more like a site fault than an IE fault.

I think that some software just runs better on some machines than others. I have seen that to be the case over the years, especially when I was building video editing workstations. Little things, like a BIOS version or a particular combination of drivers, can make a lot of difference.
Reply #42 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Hey all. We're on it, not to worry. I can't give an exact ETA for an updated build of the forums, but just know that your comments aren't going unheard and something is being done about the issue.
Reply #43 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Any of you browser buffs follow Opera? It's been my browser of choice for a few years, but I'm starting to get ticked with the latest version being very slow to start. Part of why I adopted it was how much faster it was than IE or Netscape back around 2001 or so.
Reply #44 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Part of why I adopted it was how much faster it was than IE or Netscape back around 2001 or so.


www.getfirefox.com
Reply #45 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
www.getfirefox.com


Not my question, and not interested unless they've severed their relationship to AOL.
Reply #46 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Just let the beatings stop.

*beats Mumble once more* Go! Get Firefox! Hurry!

Using Firefox since its early versions back when IE didn't even have tabbed browsing, once tried I couldn't live without it anymore.
Reply #47 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Any of you browser buffs follow Opera? It's been my browser of choice for a few years, but I'm starting to get ticked with the latest version being very slow to start.

Using Opera occasionally, a fine browser as well, both starting speed and time to display pages seem about the same as Firefox' to me. I don't think that I'm using the most current version though.
Reply #48 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
d00d, you have your information ALL backwards:
WWW Firefox's only possible relation with AOL

Firefox is an open source browser, they don't exactly have relationships with anyone. Mozilla, the owning company, has *nothing* to do with any ISP. It just so happens that their browser model was so good, other companies have based theirs off of it.

And just trust me. Do yourself a 10 minute favor and try it. Tabbed pages rule, i have 20 different sites open inside the same window separated by tabs. Ctrl+T to open a new tab.

It also comes with a handy google toolbar in the top right. And it literally is *just* a dropdown box you can type in right next to your url dropdown.

Also, if you want to search through yahoo, or ebay, in this toolbar, it takes about 2 clicks. Saves a lot of time versus going to the search sight.

Oh, and if google is your search bar highlighted, you can type your search phrase into your url box, and the browser will automatically go to the first hit by google (I'm feeling lucky option on their site).

So say I don't remember this here website... I can go into my url, and type "Galactic Civilizations 2", and it will bring me right to the homepage.

Do yourself a favor, *try* it, I will be surprised if you don't like it. Also, they've fixed the style problems for I.E. specifically written sites in most cases for Firefox at this point.

Plus no more ActiveX popups!

Seriously, by the time you're finished reading this you could have tried it.

www.getfirefox.com

Edit: For all who don't know what open source is: it is a type of project where the company allows any individual to edit the source code to add features/ modify features. A lot of good ideas have been implemented from these by individual developers. The crap jobs are gotten rid of since the company has the final rights to approval to any submission, but the individual is more than welcome to keep the original copy, so long as it is not sold. So, bottom line, open source = free
Reply #49 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Never had any issues with IE myself but I thought I would try Firefox just for the heck of it. Doesn't seem to work too well with my work sites though, not sure if it has to do with encryption or what, but that popped up when trying to get onto a Mopar site, which it did go to, but couldn't display properly. But I'll try it out for a few with this website.
Reply #50 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Yeah evil, a lot of intranet sites will not work with anything besides I.E.
So for most of your work stuff, you need to stick with it. I had this same problem when I worked for a lawfirm. And believe me, I tried every browser I could think of to use something besides internet exploder, but no dice.

I was referring for http browsing