Suggested Improvements

Hi. No, I'm not going to read through the forums to see what issues here were already discussed. I don't have time to read other people's stuff, only my own stuff and responses to my own stuff. I'm not looking for comments from the peanut gallery, either. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. If you don't like what you see here, get over it. I'm only reading responses from Stardock personnell. All others will be ignored.

I'm not a sociable person. I'm also not a mean person, or even an unfairly rude person. I'm just blunt. If you don't like it, ban me from the forum. I'm not going to accept reprimand for what I'm about to say. I will resist and reject all critique. These are my opinions and they will not be swayed in any way.

My friend and I have this strategy.

It works every time.

Say the Altarians, Torians, and Iconians all have an alliance.

We coordinate the simultaneous take over of all their resource starbases. Then we make peace with everyone. No one stands a chance. There is no resistance. We're playing on tough, and no we're not raising the difficulty so the AI can cheat in order to make the game harder.

Another issue regarding AI.

My friend was playing Terran, evil. He was doing evil things. The drath had superior military technology and from everything we could discern, he could have beaten my friend if he had just taken the opportunity to attack him. However, my guess is the AI was comparing his 40 planets to my friend's 140 planets. My friend was really scared of the Drath. So, I guess it doesn't matter what your military technology is like as long as your production is higher and you have more planets. That's extremely homosexual. The Drath should have attacked my friend and stopped his advancing evils. They allowed my friend the time to catch up in military technology and then take all his (the Drath) resource starbases. They could have gotten their friends to gang up on my friend, or something. The Torians and Altarians were already defeated, but the Drath still could have teamed up with the Iconians and I'm sure they could have bought the help of the Thalans or something.

The other evil races were like nothing. That's another thing. In 1.0 the Drengin always ended up the most powerful. Now it seems like every map I make the evil races get the short end of the stick. And I've mad a LOT of maps. The Altarians or Torians usually end up having the most space available to them. I want to be able to make my own maps or to be able to set it up so that everyone has an equal amount of space available and habitable worlds available to them. I sit there and hit Ctrl-N over and over again waiting for the right map to come up and it's annoying. Even when I think I have a good map, there are always players that end up being much weaker than others, and it's always the evil races.

It's 2006. Where are the cordless vacuum cleaners? Where are the flying cars? It's supposed to be like the Jetsons or Star Trek by now. What I'm saying is, there is no amount of programming that is going to make an Artificial Intelligence that can challenge an actual person like myself. I don't believe it is possible because I don't see cordless vacuum cleaners. Okay, do you understand, the mayans didn't even have a wheel or iron weapons but they had a calendar more accurate than our own. So here we are trying to create 4X strategy games with AI's that can beat humans, but we don't have flying cars, free energy, or cordless vacuums.

Thanks for 1.4. At least it's a work in progress.

Anyway, the issues I would like addressed are (and hopefully most will be in the expansion):

#1 I would at least like an option to have a fair map, or even have the game distribute planets at the beginning, evenly. Control-L (cheat code) no longer works. (With 1.31, haven't tried it with 1.4) We can just pretend we all went through the colonization phase. Done it 100,000,000 times anyway and it would be nice to have games where you could skip that part.

#2 It would be neat if the AI could take assessments of the "Galactic Situation" and act accordingly. For example, evil terrans are conquering the galaxy. They are using stinger 4's and have only mass driver defense. We, the Drath, have Photon Torpedo III. We were just busy taking over the Drengin, and the Drengin surrended to the Terrans. Are ships are in place for invasion of the former Drengin planets. LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE INVASION AND FIGHT THE TERRANS WHILE WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FIGHT NOW THEY'RE GONNA KILL US EVENTUALLY ANYWAY SO WHAT IS THERE TO LOSE?!?!

#3 The AI shouldn't allow people to declare war, take over their resource starbases, and then accept peace the next (or even same) turn. The AI should be a little suspicious of amassing ships and CONSTRUCTORS around their resource starbases. Maybe a little line in the script like

IF ALIENCONSTRUCTORNEARSTARBASE > 2 AND ALIENWARSHIPNEARSTARBASE THEN INVASIONIMMINENTGETYERBUTTREADY

#4 Borders should be more sacred

#5 An option for randomized races. Qualities, abilities, and characterstics of opponnents could be randomized for every game.

#6 Evil races should be more evil. Make them suicidal if they aren't going to win. How about they crash their ships into mine? Or crash them into my planets, destroying improvements?

#7 Deathstars. At least have the option to turn it on or off before you start a game. Who cares about balance or gameplay or anything, if it's an option, people can turn it off. I'm sure that EVERYBODY would *love* to play at least one game of GalCiv2 with deathstars.

#8 Intergalactic wars. Okay, I complete a game. My friend completes a game on the same setting. We should be able to send ships back and forth to eachother's galaxies, through the center.

#9. Bigger than gigantic maps. If my computer can handle it, I want to have a map that is 4 times larger. I would say the present gigantic map might be a quadrant. Really the galaxy needs to be 16 times larger. There has to be way more than 250-500 inhabitable worlds in an actual galaxy. You don't have to make it all complicated. It's just pointless to have stars that don't have inhabitable worlds at all. There are 400 billion stars and you'll never represent that. What you can represent, however, is an accurate level of inhabitable worlds. What should the number be? 10,000. You might think oh that's absurd and insane and computers can't handle that and turns would take too long and wah wah wah. Options options and options we want more options! It wouldn't require so much effort to code it. I want a galaxy that is 64 sectors by 64 sectors, with thousands of inhabitable worlds. What's wrong with that? More opponents too. Yeah, I know, hardcoded for 10 players, right? I'm never, ever going to have a realistic strategy game, am I? I'm never gonna have a Civ with a real-sized world or a real-sized galaxy because it's just so "inconceivable". Am I wrong to want so much? What kind of computers do you guys create the game on? Probably the best money can buy, right? Assume I have the same thing, what is the biggest galaxy you can make?

#10. A map editor. Will that be in the expansion? Can I manually input the dimensions? So if I want to overload my computer and crash it with an enourmous galaxy, I can?

Looking for input from actual Stardock representatives, not user-feedback.





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Reply #1 Top
I think you are a jerk.
Reply #2 Top
you really started your post on the wrong foot there, geez.
some of your points are valid, other than that i think you are a jerk.
Reply #3 Top
I think his comments are very reasonable and thought out.

In MOO, I remember creating the largest galaxies I could, b/c it was fun and challenging. I had to balance expansion, military, planet growth, technology, defense and scouting. I've only played 1/10th of one game, but I see this game as 'expand to planets and do random things to kill'...

It's a better game than prolly MOO3, but...moo3 wasn't very good...lol.

I agree with pretty much everything the dude said.
:x.
Reply #4 Top
Hi. No, I'm not going to read through the forums to see what issues here were already discussed. I don't have time to read other people's stuff, only my own stuff and responses to my own stuff. I'm not looking for comments from the peanut gallery, either. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. If you don't like what you see here, get over it. I'm only reading responses from Stardock personnell. All others will be ignored.

I'm not a sociable person. I'm also not a mean person, or even an unfairly rude person. I'm just blunt. If you don't like it, ban me from the forum. I'm not going to accept reprimand for what I'm about to say. I will resist and reject all critique. These are my opinions and they will not be swayed in any way



I cannot believe you wasted that many words of the English language saying, "I'm a tool."
Reply #5 Top
"On the Internet, no one knows if you are a dog." But we all know if you are a jackass.
Reply #6 Top
That's extremely homosexual.


I didn't mind his overly abrasive preamble, to each his own. The quote above, however... I mean, that's just not cool. Homosexuals are human beings, too. Its not cool to use that word as some sort of synonym for stupid or whatever. Discrimination and hurtful words just based on differences is wrong. Plain and simple.
Reply #7 Top
I mean, that's just not cool. Homosexuals are human beings, too.


Ahem... long sighs... nevermind

Discrimination and hurtful words just based on differences is wrong.

Should it be this easy?  

Oh, and some of you guys thought I was an ass???? Wow
Reply #8 Top
I'm only reading responses from Stardock personnell. All others will be ignored.

Good luck with that attitude.
Reply #9 Top
Oh, and some of you guys thought I was an ass???? Wow

Yes ES. This guy makes you seem downright civil.   
Reply #10 Top
lol, it's a gaming forum...not a political blog...wow lol. You guys are funny .

The guy has valid points, although perhaps he should edit his post so that this thread doesn't side-track and get locked.
Reply #11 Top
Oh, and some of you guys thought I was an ass???? Wow


You have the capability for social discourse, and your commentary is at least suggestive that you've read what we've posted in order to fuel a snarky response. That alone suggests you're at least human.

Besides, with you, at least there's usually something in the snark worth reading because it something the reader can learn from because you've taken the time to read other people's posts and aren't repeating the same damned thing someone wrote six or eight months ago.
Reply #12 Top
After reading the OPs preamble, I was not at all interested in what he had to say--at this point I really don't care if his comments are worthwhile or not. The extreme side of blunt is rude, and the line was crossed here.

I would not be surprised if Stardock ignored this thread completely because of the attitude of the OP.

If you want your ideas heard, be polite about it. Don't trash the rest of us reading and writing on this forum.
Reply #13 Top
You have the capability for social discourse, and your commentary is at least suggestive that you've read what we've posted in order to fuel a snarky response. That alone suggests you're at least human.


I was compelled to quote all of it but I began to blush...  nice!  You know, all of you guys are great, no matter what my attitude (or any of yours)may be. This forum brightens otherwise dismal days people and I love it.
Reply #14 Top
Hi. No, I'm not going to read through the forums to see what issues here were already discussed. I don't have time to read other people's stuff, only my own stuff and responses to my own stuff. I'm not looking for comments from the peanut gallery, either. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. If you don't like what you see here, get over it. I'm only reading responses from Stardock personnell. All others will be ignored.


"I wasted my time. I should've just emailed Stardock."

I'm not a sociable person. I'm also not a mean person, or even an unfairly rude person. I'm just blunt. If you don't like it, ban me from the forum. I'm not going to accept reprimand for what I'm about to say. I will resist and reject all critique. These are my opinions and they will not be swayed in any way.


"I like stating my opinions, but I don't like listening to other people's opinions."

lol . . .

and no we're not raising the difficulty so the AI can cheat in order to make the game harder.


"I want things done my way."

I don't believe it is possible because I don't see cordless vacuum cleaners.


"I'm living in a cave - and oh, yeah, technology should go as fast as I think it should."

http://www.irobot.com/

Yes, we've already invented the automated cordless vacuum cleaner . . .

So here we are trying to create 4X strategy games with AI's that can beat humans, but we don't have flying cars, free energy, or cordless vacuums.


"If we can't have the perfect game, we should stop trying."

Believe me, if we needed perfect AI, we'd have to give up all of the games on the planet. What you're asking for is totally unrealistic and unreasonable.

Some of your suggestions are nice, but your attitude is totally off the wall. Remember, the world doesn't revolve around you. And just because the AI is not going to be a self-aware conscious entity doesn't mean we have to give up on the AI.

For crying out loud, it's just a game. I'm sure the devs will take your ideas into consideration, but there's really no need to act all snobbish about it.
Reply #15 Top
I'm not a sociable person. I'm also not a mean person, or even an unfairly rude person. I'm just blunt. If you don't like it, ban me from the forum. I'm not going to accept reprimand for what I'm about to say. I will resist and reject all critique. These are my opinions and they will not be swayed in any way.


Geez the world would be better without people like you.
Reply #16 Top
What a waste of bandwidth. Is there an ignore button on this forum? I never felt the need before.
Reply #17 Top
I get the image of a chubby, glasses wearing, pimple faced, chocolate stained little dweeb... for any of you senior folk in here, remember messy marvin from the nesle quik commercials? You do? Good! That's him!!!! Marvin is the OP!! Wow, we've figured out what happened to Marvin... quick, someone call VH1!!! We need to do a "where are they now" special.
Reply #18 Top
This is just one example of the types of people out there, i read the first paragraph and had already made up my mind that the rest of this stuff was garbage.
I have a few choice words, but i will resort to a question. How do expect people to respect your opinion if you dont respect what they have to say?
Reply #19 Top
Do you think this person knows how much entertainment we are going to get from this?
Reply #20 Top
He'd have to break character and actually read our responses. Until I see otherwise, this guy just put a "Kick me, I'm paralyzed above the neck" sign on his ass.

Reply #21 Top
This thread has been very instructive. It's amazing to see folks that have been ranting at each other on diametrically opposite sides completely agree on at least one thing.

To the OP, we can actually be a fairly helpful bunch with reasonable experience with the game and can usually be a benefit to the new or experienced player. The developers do read these forums and do respond when there is an appropriate need, but they also have better things to do than to respond to your (or my) every request.

Your preamble was absolutely effective in offending pretty much everyone. Since otherwise your post exhibited reasonable intelligence, that must have been your intent. I suggest that if you haven't given up completely, you try posting your suggestions, requests and/or comments with a modicum of civility and you could be surprised how much more effective they would be.
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I love comment number 4, "Borders should be more sacred." Yes, I agree, lets put a gigantic concrete wall option in the game sorta like the one we aren't building between Mexico and the United States, lets keep out all the scouts from other empires and trade craft. LOL.

Goober.
Reply #23 Top
That's really not a bad idea, except instead of preventing someone from crossing, just make anything that carries a weapon subject to a non-consequential attack for breaching the border. Include troop modules as a weapon, which leaves constructors, freighters and colony ships in the clear. Take your badass battleship into someone else's territory while you're not allied, then they get a free shot at popping you off without a war declaration.

A "neutral zone violation" of sorts.


Of course, for your allies, this can be waived at your option.
Reply #24 Top
Or if a military ship (attack or troop transport) violates your borders, you can attack it with dilomatic consequences. Also, you get the first attack free, ala pre 1.2 or the new Arcean super talent.

I do agree that there needs to be some sort of real border.
Reply #25 Top
He'd have to break character and actually read our responses. Until I see otherwise, this guy just put a "Kick me, I'm paralyzed above the neck" sign on his ass.


LOL.

I really think that this guy is just an arrogant ass. Dev's, please don't waste your time in here. Unless you need a good laugh.