wierd CTD

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well it was in the late game and while I was waiting for the comps turn there was an error popup and basically a CTD.

Debug Message: Version v1.2 last updated on: Mon Jun 12 18:04:26 2006
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System Info
Time: 6/23/2006, 21:32:38
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Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
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Driver Date: 7/20/2004 10:14:06
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Galleon Frieghter 1031. Orbiting: 0
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Debug Message: Killing threads.
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Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
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Debug Message: Clear influence.
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Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
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and this is from the last couple of turns

Debug Message: Iconian Refuge senate and their party in control is 2
Debug Message: War Party running for re-election...
Debug Message: Destroying ship Altarian Frigate M18-5 2597. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
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Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog 8d
Debug Message: Destroying ship Escort M8-2 2652. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event Check: Gaia
Debug Message: Random Event: Phoenix
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Snathi Freighter M16-7 2683. Orbiting: 0
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Debug Message: Iconian Refuge (9): Researching: Stinger
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fleet 389. Orbiting: 0
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Altarian Frigate M19-1 2663. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Altarian Frigate M19-1 2623. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Altarian Fleet 391. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M17-7 2631. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M17-7 2614. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M17-7 2608. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M17-7 2605. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M9-12 2013. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fighter M15-3 2318. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Heavy Fighter M9-12 1908. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Heavy Fighter M15-3 2334. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Heavy Fighter M15-3 2322. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Heavy Fighter M15-10 2346. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Thalan Fleet 316. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Snathi Defender M16-7 2566. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Snathi Defender M16-7 2713. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Iconian Refuge (9): Researching: Warp Drive II
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
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Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Ship does not have a valid ship class in CalcTotalMoves. Setting moves to 0.
Debug Message: Destroying ship . Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: End
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
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Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Ship does not have a valid ship class in CalcTotalMoves. Setting moves to 0.
Debug Message: Destroying ship . Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: End

in the last couple of lines there is an error about not having a valid ship class. I have no idea what ship it was, may have been the computers or maybe mine. So that 'Ship does not have a valid ship class in CalcTotalMoves' is probably related to the CTD.

otherwise I have no idea why it CTD'ed
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
"Driver Date: 10/13/2005 22:11:22"

Well, updating your video drivers might help. . .
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I have not had any video problems and I have that Omega driver update which the debug is probably not detecting.

there weren't any other problems when that suddendly ouccured.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
There are more recent Omega drivers available, and GCII detects them just fine. Make sure you really do have the most recent, and make sure it's a clean install too (no older drivers left). I've also run into this bug (or at least a very similar one) when a Precursor ship event happens. It seem like sometimes the game can't find the appropriate ship class to create a ship, so it dumps you to the desktop.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
yea well I tried to do it with a problem I had with CoV and things got messed up and I had to revert and somehow they cleared up. But the thing is that the CTD wasn't related to graphics as I am having NO graphics problems. sure there is a little bit of lag in late game, but thats due to the number of ships and other stuff on the map.

I'd rather have a Stardock dev look at this because you two are saying its my graphics card, but I'm saying I have no graphics problems!

and it wasn't a Precursor ship discovery event, it happened while the computer was doing its turn, I think anyway. although... the Thalans did have that planetary quality event which doubles a planets quality a turn or two before the crash, which may or may not be related.

and like I said, I'd like someone who understands what I'm trying to show here to look at it because Ostsol missed what I was saying and I did reply that I have had no graphical issues. In other words I'd like someone who can actually interpret the error I got.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
JJ, graphics cards aren't graphics problems. If an error with the driver occurs, then what happens is the game shuts down. You don't see the graphics, but it is a graphics error. Events happen during computer turns.

However, I don't think it's driver related, because I can't see any messages which say it is. But if you say you have a newer driver, it could be conflicting drivers, and wouldn't show in the debug.

I reccomend removing all drivers, and getting the catalysts from the ATI site. Besides, CoV has *issues* with non Nvidia drivers at the best of time (because NCsoft are hacks), so a fully supported ATI driver will only help both games.

Oh, and the precursor event may have happened to someone else. It's perfectly feasible. And once more, you don't see when you get a driver error. Nothing happens to the graphics, it just CTDs.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
yea well, it was probably some kind of precursor event because I had no other problems during that game (other than the Snathi repeatedly declaring war on other ppl. I guess they just aren't very smart dimplomatically).

and if it was a driver conflict, it probably would have said in the CTD alert. I probably should be looking in the CTD error details more often.

anyway, if it happens again I'll post about it.