Known issue. Carielf has said it has been identified as a bug, not a deliberate feature, that was the developers were trying to fix by 1.2. It still exists in 1.2. They are aware of it and may fix it eventually. One observation is that all races suffer equally, in the no production round, and that if you look at the graphs it seems that only military production is affected, although no tech advances or social production alerts are created. Best advice now is to try to keep the game active by using windows mode. The current 1.2 version is stable for days on end on my system.

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If I know if it helps, but if I know that I might be doing others windows programs and might crash the game or be off for a while I try to create a save game with max tech spending or cash creation with no production scheduled. I don't know if this helps but it makes me feel better. LOL


from Tandis at Stardock

"It is on our list but it isn't at the top of the priority list. We understand why some people think this is a big deal but please remember that everyone has their favorite feature/pet peeve/whatever.

1.2 is scheduled for this Month. If one looks at the list of improvements we made in 1.1, I think the case can be made that we haven't been exactly sitting around."

Well, given that memory issues are fixed now, I think SD should bump this to the top of the list. It effects everyone and it involves a central game mechanic. I'm not bent out of shape about it like the thread you linked to, but I do think fixing this should be of a higher rank than an example mod.

I don't know if many people have "accepted" it, or if they have merely given up. I still have the feeling that many don't care.

I wouldn't put it in the same category as just another "favorite feature/pet peeve/whatever" (although I do admit it's a favourite topic of mine, because a real showstopper that prevents game enjoyment, and will keep me off from buying any new expansion until it is fixed), hey it's still a 100% reproductible and systematic bug with effects on gameplay mechanics, not just some "stuff I'd like to have" or graphical quirk. Maybe it's very hard to fix due to how the code has been made, maybe it's a highly unrewarding and dirty work compared to coding other stuff, but personally I wouldn't have put this lower priority than making mods easier and shipping one example. Unless it's really very, very hard to fix.

Actually, it has an enormous effect on gameplay if used as an exploit. Move your ships, save the game, load the game, hit "turn". No production, but your ships have movement points again. Now move them, save, load and hit "turn". In this manner you can explore the entire galaxy on turn 1.

It can also have a significant effect if you decide to save your game while an enemy fleet is moving toward one of your planets where you have a ship under construction. If you save your game, you're dead (no production=no defender). If you don't save, you can live. I don't consider it a total gamebreaker, but it's pretty freakin' annoying.

i have the same expierence on my current game. however certain fleets (not all ) will get bonus movement points after a save. but only if i make an attack.i have had several instances where my 6 mp fleets end up making attacks on seven or eight worlds, upping thier HP into the 200's or so.

This bug has a definitive effect on gameplay! Just a few days ago, I started a new game and was about 20 minutes into the game when the game crashed while I was designing a new faster colony ship. Once I got back to the game, I designed the ship and bought one, which should have appeared next turn but due to this bug, didn't. Once I got my ship, I sent it towards an uninhabited class 15 planet a few sectors away. When the ship got close to the planet, I saw a Torian colony ship with a movement of 3 sitting 1 square from the planet, while my ship with a movement of 5 was 3 squares away. The Torians of course got the planet, but since their ship was slower and the Torians were further away, I'm sure that the ship was already en route when the game crashed. So the extra turn of movement that ship got versus my lost turn in production caused me to lose a very important planet, because the game crashed!

After that, I got extremly angry with the game, quit, played a few rounds of One Must Fall 2097 ( a great stress reliever ), and started a new game of CIV4, which still holds the crown of Best Strategy Game Ever!

I've practially stopped playing GC2 because of this save game bug, I'll only play if I can spend at least 3-4 hours with it. Unfortunately the game still might crash every now and then, but most of the time I'll accept my losses and continue, but I have quit a few games because this bug caused me to lose a planet because that colony ship or defender wasn't there when it was supposed to be. I really have sometimes won a battle, have the game crash shortly after, and then lose that battle because the enemy got there one turn too soon...

Anyone really believe this is a bug? -- Come on -- they just don't want you replaying turns to get an outcome you like. Problem is you cann't save/load a game without lossing game integrity and the game does crash occassionally. And a game can take me a week or so to play on Gigantic map --
so have to minimize using contoll-alt-delete and leave comp on.
Thanks developers! -- game is great -- otherwise wouldn't put up with it.

ps bug -- no way -- if it was, they would have it fixed in 5 minutes if they could do it in 5 minutes; 10 minutes if they could do it in 10 minutes ....
etc

Anyone really believe this is a bug? -- Come on -- they just don't want you replaying turns to get an outcome you like. Problem is you cann't save/load a game without lossing game integrity and the game does crash occassionally. And a game can take me a week or so to play on Gigantic map -- so have to minimize using contoll-alt-delete and leave comp on. Thanks developers! -- game is great -- otherwise wouldn't put up with it. ps bug -- no way -- if it was, they would have it fixed in 5 minutes if they could do it in 5 minutes; 10 minutes if they could do it in 10 minutes .... etc

Kblore, you just might want to read response #2 by Kosty. Follow the link, too.

Of course your post has made the developers over at Civilization IV realize they need to incorporate a save game penalty like GalCiv2. In fact, every maker of turn based strategy games has come to the same conclusion:

"It is more important to punish those (few) who would use a functional load/save feature to exploit rather than to accomodate those (many) who can't play the game until completion or minimize the game while not playing."

I hope you have a good sense of humor. I do, and your post made me laugh. I hope my post makes you laugh, too.

This bug has been fixed in our code for 1.3.

This bug has been fixed in our code for 1.3.

The last major bug is dead. Long live Stardock!

When is 1.3 coming out?

Excellent! Now I can start playing again. Hopefully we'll get a beta soon