another ai cheating...

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In a long, weird and intensive "micromanagement" effort I just checked my "enemies" in a masochistic game.

a) any empire is at max 75% of my empire size
b) they planets have like NO research factilities
c) yet, any civ have about 10x more researched tech as I have
d) tech trade is disabled!

When I check the espionage stats, I have 1754 research produced every turn, the best are arceans with 4027.... tough they have just 1 research factility on each planet (I have like 3 on average). How is that possible???

Of course is the AI not cheating, it wont work, but there isfor sure 100% undocumented bonus at higher difficutly levels, or something like that would be impossible. You know what, Im using this super slow tech tree mod. It works perfectly for me, but the AI seems to completely ignore the tech costs, for any tech I invent, the AI civs invent like 10.

First I thought maybe they are just going 100% research and nothing for social/military production, but that way, they wouldnt have anything else. Though their planet structure is beyond any human understanding, they HAVE highly developed planets and zillions of super warships.

I also asked my self how it comes, the AI is beating my ships like 6:1 (for any ship I destroy, I lose 6), now I know why, my best weapon is laser v, I just couldnt go faster. And the Ai have black hole eruptor. ahaha.

I just have no idea what the hell is going on. On low diff levels the ai plays quite stupid, on high levels it seems the AI have its own rules. Right now Im quite p....

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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Don't know about other bonuses, but on Masochistic the AI gets a free +200% economy bonus, which can in turn allow it to spend much more on everything and rush buy constantly.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I think they get the 200% bonus also on research and military production, and that's a hell of a bonus, put a few starbases and some research abilty/resource on top of that, and the AI doesn't need that many labs to out-tech the player.

That's why there is so much difference from crippling to masochistic. In crippling they get just a 125% bonus.

I have been trying to play as the Drengin in masochistic with slow tech and no tech trading and I get beaten up every single time. I just have the time to research Laser V when the Altarians or some other good guy come with their "You're just too evil..." and it's game over in a few turns. But I don't think they are "cheating", apart from having a +200% bonus on every thing.
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I have not yet tried Masochistic, playing my first Metaverse game on created under v1.0 with level Painful, gigantic map, every abundant, and tight clusters (and finding it too easy). Given the huge bonuses the AI gets at Masochistic and above, the only way to win on v1.2 (with loss of first strike advantage and better planet management by the AI) at this level is by agressive tech trading plus selecting tight clusters and building up a network of economic starbases so you can keep up.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I think the 200% is for everything, I remember Brad once commenting that with 200% bonus to sensors that on masochistic, the AI have no real fog of war. If you don't want it to cheat, play tough.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
i do not beliave in a real cheat too, but actualy if there is more bonus, its not documented anywhere.

what a luck the game is like 1000000 better then the guide book, as guide book writers, stardock would go broke quite fast

anything I know about gc2 is from the net, and the net just speaks about an economy bonus. some clarification by the officials would be great here