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Sometimes evil wins..

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One of the nice things about being an indie title that isn't incredibly mainstream is that you can do things that wouldn't necessarily appeal to the casual player.

For instance, the expansion pack for GalCiv II has gotten its features, story, plot, etc. mapped out now.  We'll talk about that more soon.

But it will contain a campaign and it will be dark. Very dark.  Two of the major civilizations in GalCiv II will be wiped out. Eliminated. You'll still be able to play them in GalCiv II but come GalCiv III, they won't exist. Eradicated.  Individuals of the two races may still exist and show up in GalCiv III but as playable races, their histories will come to an end.

Two new civilizations will be introduced in the expansion pack which will have the native ability to make use of planets that the others can't use without research (the expansion will introduce the concept of special planet types that can't be colonized until you've researched the appropriate environment technology). A third civilization will be added too which  will act as the main villain (well, of course the Drengin are villains too but, well you'll see).

And if you think the blood thirsty Drengin are bad with their desire to enslave all the galaxy as "slavelings", there are worse things than the Drengin and we're not talking about the Dread Lords.

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Reply #26 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Ooooooooooooohhhhhh scary..... can't wait
Reply #27 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I just hope the new races don't cheat in the same way as the Dread Lords do, simply by having ridiculously higher stats... think Settlers: HoK expansion - those missions were next to stupidly impossible because they just jacked up the enemy's power rather than the strategy.
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Reply #28 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I know while I won't be interested in the new campaign (I also didn't even try the dread lords campaign, sandbox rules!) lots of players are and the campaign will surely be a major part of the expansion.
Having a look on what you released with GalCiv2 there is absolutely no doubt that the expansion pack will be worth the money and sandbox games will also benefit from new races and features, so I can't wait to hold it in hands.
Keep up your good work and keep up that frequent journal articles about upcoming changes, it is always exciting to read about progresses.

BTW, terminate the Terrans, their leader looks ugly!
Reply #29 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I'm guessing for a shocker it may be the Terrans??

I thought our similar-looking Altarian brethren might be enough for starters.

I don't think an evil race will be eliminated, the campaign is meant to be dark, isn't it? Hmm, maybe an evil race gets replaced by an even more evil race then.
Reply #30 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
But it will contain a campaign and it will be dark. Very dark.


Excellent, bring it on.

Note:- Good gets it in the neck, again...

Two of the major civilizations in GalCiv II will be wiped out.


Not so good...

Please not the Drengin, Yor, Drath, Altarians or Torians. The other four u can have...

Two new civilizations will be introduced in the expansion pack which will have the native ability to make use of planets that the others can't use without research (the expansion will introduce the concept of special planet types that can't be colonized until you've researched the appropriate environment technology).


Excellent wanted this for some time. The Yor should be able to build colonys on moons etc... with no real penalty.

Hope those races r better then the 2 axed.

A third civilization will be added too which will act as the main villain


We kicked the dreadlords all over the galaxy, this one will go the same way...
Reply #31 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I reckon the Korx and the Altarians...

The Korx are a hopeless race.. they have no flavour at all in addition to looking stupid.. i mean a race of ultimate mecenaries!?!? seriously.

I think the Altarians will go because they hit closest to home with the player without eliminating the Terran's (id be VERY unplesantly surprised to see the Terrans go)
Reply #32 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
*Spoilers for campaign if anyone cares*

I don't see how the humans would be involved at all, since they ran and hid at the end of the campaign. The only reason for them to return would be after they come back from Dread Lord space with massively improved technology and a grudge against the Drengin...

Hmm... so I wonder who the 'new' race will be...

Just my little theory.
Reply #33 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I'm pretty sure Thalans will stay, since their backstory still needs to be told.
Reply #34 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
so the expansion pack will be called GalCivIII, right? thats what it sounds like.

as for which two races get wiped out, I guess we could have a poll for it if Stardock hasn't already decided on the two. The expansion pack sounds like alot of fun!

I don't think the Terrans will be killed off because the whole game is about the terran ascendancy and them developing.

So I think maybe the Yor could get killed off and possibly the Iconians
Reply #35 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Looks promising. I believe that Blizzard's StarCraft, and to an extent WarCraft III has proven that gamers can easily handle games without a 'happy ending'. In fact, in the Frozen Throne expansion, you're actually striving to see (one of the) bad guys win in the end. I guess it all depends on the wrapping in which the game and story in presented.

I, for one, am curious has the Terran will have evolved in that pocket universe and on Earth. I could imagine them gradually turning darker over time. After all, they 'lost' their homeworld in part due to the incompetence of their allies (their words) and the maniacal Drengin and Dread Lords. So, when they come back, everyone is going to pay.

At least, that just my little fantasy. I think humans could make very good evil guys, after all, a human mind unrestrained by ethics to outsiders can be a fearful weapon. And their loyalty towards one another would create a solid block of an empire.

Oh well, that's the story I often pretend to be playing in the game.
Reply #36 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
HA! notice the Terrans aren't on the poll! Yay Homo Sapiens!
Reply #38 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
DEATH TO THE TORIANS!!!!

And the Arceans for that matter. Those two get on my nerves.

I'm betting its between the Altarians, the Torians and the Arceans. All three were defeated by the Drengin/Yor alliance in the campaign. Toria Prime was practically destroyed when it was invaded.
Reply #39 from Stardock Forums Top
I don't think the Altarians are up for chops just yet. They still have that odd familiarity with the Terrans to be revealed (unless it was revealed in GalCiv I). The Arceans, however, don't seem to be all that 'colourful'. They're an old, neutral empire that's been beaten and they don't strike me as flexible enough to rebuild their empire.

My second guess would be the Korx mainly because their affinity to defection and love for cash seem to get in the way of holding together a serious empire. After all, they'd sell their own mothers for some decent cash.
Reply #40 from Stardock Forums Top
i say the Terrans should be axed.
those pesky apes have been soiling the galaxy for far too long
(i say this because in a game i'm playing currently, they are my biggest competitors, but i have the virtue of a) owning about 85% of the United Planets seats so voting is just a formality, b) i have the most advanced anti-missile and anti-beam defenses, and b) i have the most advanced missile and laser weaponry available, currently researching to finish up the mass driver techs. i have the largest military, by far, but now it is beginning to strain my economy somewhat after years of being a war economy.
but they are plotting. i know it. they are waiting to pass me by in the tech tree.
Reply #41 from Stardock Forums Top
The Korx are always powerfull in my games. They are cool to play too, dont erase them. In fact, all races can play good in most of my games, except the drath sometimes that really suck.


By the way It would be better to keep all the existing civilization, they are all cool.

I wont buy any Galactic civilization 3 is thoses are removed.
Reply #44 from Stardock Forums Top
wont buy any Galactic civilization 3 is thoses are removed.


I'm not buying this expansion if the Terrans get eliminated.


Yea right. Pull the other one, thats got bells on.

I want to see the Iconians (good) and Korx (evil) get the chop. They r both useless and I just can not get an affinity for either race. It would keep gameplay balance as well.

Not so bothered if those humans get the chop as well, overrated if u ask me
Reply #45 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Come on people, don't say "I won't buy GalCiv 3 when race X is eliminated". It's childish and won't lead to anything.
Reply #47 from Stardock Forums Top
Hehe, you people are so funny. I had no idea some of you were so attached to the races (I always make my own custom race). An interesting twist would be if both the human races were exterminated and it was a Galaxy of non Homo-Sapiens.

If I had to vote - my vote would be for one of the Homo-Sapian races to be eliminated, and maybe the Iconians. Now I love the Iconians... but they've been the easiest push-overs in every game I've played. The Korx would be my runner-up... but I've found them interesting and fun to have in my games. since they're very untrustworthy.
Reply #48 from Stardock Forums Top
I'm trying to cobble together bits and pieces of information from previous interviews etc. If I remember properly, isn't the expansion campaign played as the Drengin?

My money is on the Korx and the Arceans. The Arceans are a noble warrior race, who you can easily picture fighting to the death against a new evil. And I doubt the new evil will have much interest in money.
Reply #49 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Please ! Please ! Don't kill the Torians ! I love them. If the Torians disappear i will hack all your servers and kidnap your children, rape your houses and burn your spouses. Uh... Got a bit carried away, but, well, please, leave the torians alone...
Kill those thalans, they only are insects, they exist only to be crushed.

The Torians are good indeed ; but that's great ! When they get on your nerves with their kindness, you destroy them with immense satisfaction ; when you feel like you want to be friends with someoen, they are always here.

Dont. Kill. The. Torians.


(PS : the above isn't serious. It's your universe, do as you please. I won't rape your houses.)
Reply #50 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Who else in the Universe could be worse than the Drengin and Dread Lords than the Humans?

Oh, I don't want to see the Korx go anywhere. They have some of the better dialogue. But eh, I don't particularly have a say in it. Though I would expect the Korx to die, I'm also thinking Altaria may be brought down. This IS going to be an expansion about striving to be evil.