The Drath, Human, and Thalan Race AI's expand horribly compared to all the others...

In every game I play these the races fall behind everytime and hardly ever expand...
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For me the Drengins and Yor don't expand, however I've heard people who say the Altairians or the Terrans or any other race doesn't expand. It's just a matter of coincidence.
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For me the minor races don't. Maybe 1 in 8 of them try to build an empire. The others build 10 constructors that sit on their home planet and do nothing. Fix please...
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Not a coincidence for me. Its that way every game I play...
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some of it may be galaxy size. some may be the AI's intended acts. The humans are merchants and diplomats, the thalan are extremly advanced. And it may very well be coincidennce or wanting to avoird war with planets so close to another empire. as for minor races i've played several games where they all go after planets fast. quite annoying actually. anyways they are supposed to be minor races.
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You found the Terrans useless? yr lucky on my games they always trade for techs with everyone become the most advanced build up this massive trading empire and just kick but. Its gotten to the point were i exclude them or play as them
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For me the minor races don't. Maybe 1 in 8 of them try to build an empire. The others build 10 constructors that sit on their home planet and do nothing. Fix please...


Minor races aren't supposed to expand. That's why they're minor
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No they're minor because they start out at both a tech and racial disadvantage. We get all our racial abilities but they start out at nothing. They also have less unique poorer AI's. That is what makes them minor.
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Jalex -Do you play on small maps?
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why am i the only one with any ranking medals? anyone play on the metaverse? Morberis is right and auboy has a good question. Try reading the Race descriptions under the databank. being such an intensely progammed game not all the races are gonna be made to expand rapidly because there made to pursue other things. Also what diffuculty do you play on. What makes them good may not be effective on lower intellegince settings.
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No they're minor because they start out at both a tech and racial disadvantage. We get all our racial abilities but they start out at nothing. They also have less unique poorer AI's. That is what makes them minor.


Minor races not colonizing planets is not a bug. It is the way the game is designed.

They aren't part of the galactic race. They don't have influence. They're minor. They're bugs. They get squashed when someone has the tech and military to take them out.
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which is..... 99.999999999999% of the time
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For me I don't worry to much about minor races and I end up not paying attention to them (they are something to take care of later in the game.

Although I do tend to notice that on the very large galaxys that some of the races mainly Torians, Korx, and Altarians tend to take the map over fairly quick. The Drath depending on where they start end up with a few planets in a corner which they eventually surrender to someone or they are consumed by some very expansive race.

The Terrans are very slow at getting started and eventually given enough time and space get going - this not before i have the edge over them in something, probably economy.

The Thalans tend to do very well starting out but eventually slow down allowing me to take some vey good planets usually 18-20's sucks to be them at this point.

I would love to see improvement on the AI on how it decides to colonize and what priority it gives it.

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The only real trend I've seen is the Arcean, Torian and Korx colony-spam. They're not always very powerful - indeed, they've often ruined their economies to get all those planets - but they're almost always the largest.
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From my personal experience, the Drengin are pretty slow at expanding, and the Yor even worse. Sometimes I like playing what I call "Evil Axis takes on the galaxy" where my custom race is allied with the evil players. The Korx do okay on their own, but the other two start falling behind quickly due to a lack of worlds, and it takes tons of aid just to keep them alive, almost offsetting the benefit of not having their worlds fall into the hands of a non-allied player.
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If you play on tough with the AI's set at all intellegent i find there is a considerable jump to how the Drengin and the Yor play and for me they tend to grab a considerable chunk of the galaxy. there seems to be some sort of backdraw to the evil players on levels below tough.
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The terrans might be slower to expand since they do not know stellar cartography at the beginning of the game and so do not 'know' where the planets are
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This and the major tech gap between them and the others might suggest intimidation don't you think?
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Minor races not colonizing planets is not a bug. It is the way the game is designed. They aren't part of the galactic race. They don't have influence. They're minor. They're bugs. They get squashed when someone has the tech and military to take them out.


Actually, if anyone cares, I think you can set them to colonize and expand using an edited scanario.

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It just must be your game. In the game I'm playing at the moment there are only three other major races, and two of them are the the Terrans and the Thalans.
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The only real trend I've seen is the Arcean, Torian and Korx colony-spam. They're not always very powerful - indeed, they've often ruined their economies to get all those planets - but they're almost always the largest.


Yes, I tend to see that of Torian and korx...
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Minor races not colonizing planets is not a bug. It is the way the game is designed.

They aren't part of the galactic race. They don't have influence. They're minor. They're bugs. They get squashed when someone has the tech and military to take them out.


That is included in the "low grade ai" heading, its not what defines them as minor.