Are the races imbalanced?

It seems that some races (for example: Drath) have all the bonuses of other races AND more besides (for example: Humans). While this may spice things up when these guys are AIs, it does rather imbalance things when the human can play them, and will do so until the custom race can actually be customised fully (i.e. racial traits customisable beyond the 10 points... something you can do with every race anyway).

I just don't understand the point behind unequal races where the human can gain from that imbalance.
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Having asked this question myself, I'll answer.

The races you see as lacking often get advantages you miss. Are you playing 1.0X or 1.1 beta 4a? 1.1 beta 4a tweaks some things, but mostly it prevents some races "bonuses" from dissapearing when you hit reset, making it look like they are weaker. Anyway I digress, here is a rundown of why some races aren't underpowered compared to another, and just different.

Terran: Arguably the most contreversial, even I went "WTF?" when all the beginner guides said use them as your first race when it seemed liked every other race was so much shinier ><. The fact is though, their bonuses are quite strong. In Beta 1.1 4a they get a free 25% to diplo and free 25% to trade. Yes the drathi have more then that, but I rather have the 25% trade, depending on the game I am playing, then the bonuses to espionage etc. The second part, is they are the only race to start with Xeno Communications AND a Diplo bonus. In my last game, I rushed to Universal Translators and then the tech that gives diplomatic translators, and I was able to EASILY trade for every tech I was missing, and more. I would do a diplo tech, then a off tech (for trade, because unless I really needed to, I didn't want to give my diplo bonus techs away), and it solidified early relations with me, while keeping me on top tech wise (maybe not leading tech wise, but competitive enough only with a lot of allies.

Iconians: No racial bonuses whatsoever, made me a sad panda, until I played them and found out they have a class 15 (now 14 in beta 1.1 4a) starting planet RIGHT from the start. I took the 3 point green thumb under "planet quality" as my extra bonus, which means in 1.0X they start as a class 17 planet, while in 1.1 beta4a they start as a class 15 again. That game I got so lucky and had a few class 10-14 class planets around, and I just dominated, since the 10% bonus only gets better as you terraform those planets.

Yor: Miniturization bonus, nuff said. Play around with fast teching to early engines, and watch your ships out race everything for a long time.

Other races, just play around with, run through some games with them, if they look weak initially, or gipped "stat" wise, they usually make up for it with a unique tech, starting planet or something. It's all there. If you don't like playing beta's then wait for 1.1 to come out next week, as I said it makes the racial bonuses easier to see, so things that look gimped now don't.

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The Yor are awful good. Miniturization is cool. Then turn into xeno etchics and go evil. No one will stop you.

The Thalans are nice too. THe insects spread fastly and you get planet after planet early in game.

Ther Torians have a wodenful sensor bonus, so you find from the start easily the best ressources and planets around. And the pop incraeses very fast and you get lots of tough soldiers
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Much as I love this game, the UI seems to be flawed in so many blindingly obvious areas, like here where you can see the racial bonuses of some races but not others. Why?! Why not have them displayed in a different colour and have no default bonuses for any race? Wouldn't that make for much MUCH easier comparisons? And seeing as how you can lose (and not regain) racial bonuses by choosing something from the same category, can you do the same for hidden bonuses? Man this game drives me potty sometimes.
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I for one do not feel any race is uber over another. Even though I have my doubts about the Torians. It seems like they're on crack when the computer uses them.

I can kick ass no matter what race I play.


regarding the Iconians, what is not mentioned is they are gifted with some nice starting techs. I do not recall how many, it seems like they have 3-4 more than any other race.