turn off trading if you don't like micromanaging

I've been experimenting with turning trading off. I for one have better things to do than try to figure out the logic that is behind whether they will accept anything in trade or not. And I don't have to worry about using the stupid trading interface to keep myself from getting 20 levels behind in tech b/c the AI trades between themselves relentlessly.

Even the playing field & turn trading off when you start your game.

The only problem you may find is that winning is too easy. Even on Painful. But, in my book, it's better than wasting my time on the trading interface.

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Reply #1 Top
And miss out on all the free bc?
With Star Democracy researched I've got enough Diplomacy to just ask for money and get it (only sub-normal AIs so far, but I'm gettin' there).
Reply #2 Top
Dude, just take a 10% diplomacy bonus and build the diplomatic translators, and you should be able to not only pee on the AIs collective legs and tell them it's raining, in terms of tech trades, but make a fortune selling them umbrellas.

The ideal situation, starting from a position where you're behind technologically, but gave a good-to-excellent diplomacy bonus:

Step 1.) Find an alien race with weaker diplomatic skills than you and roughly equal, but different, technology. Trade all of your stuff for all of their stuff.

Step 2.) Find an different alien race that still has stuff you don't. Trade all of your tech for all of their tech.

Repeat until technological parity is acheived!

This breaks down a little in terms of military technology, which is disporportionatly expensive to trade for, plus subject to other limitations like the computer (or you, if you're smart) not wanting to trade it to a potential enemy. But the thing about military technology is also that you don't need it all. There are many legitimate combinations of weapons, armor, ship size, miniturazation and logistics, and you only need enough to beat whoever you're fighting right now.

Aaaaannnd you don't want to trade away cultural or diplomatic techs too freely, or anything that would let the computer build a unique acheivement before you, obviously

But since there are a lot of techs, and different AIs tend to research different ones, there are still a lot of options. Plus there are technologies you WANT the computer to have, like Trade or Alliances, and if you research them first, you can sell them to everybody, which is just awesome.

But if all that sounds tooth-grindingly boring, then yeah, you turn off tech trading.
Reply #3 Top
I use tech trading to help wiith my proxy wars. Sell a nice fleet for a few techs, implement those techs to new ships, repeat.
Reply #4 Top
Its strange that you think the game is too easy when you turn OFF the tech trading; while I agree it is too easy, it is far far easier with tech trading turned on, because one can maintain an automatic tech lead and make stacks and stacks of free money - which one cant do without tech trading.
Reply #5 Top
I try to limit my tech trading. If I am behind in the race I will trade quite freely. Once I am on par I am very selective on what I will trade. Never trade Diplomancy or cutural techs. If I am at war and I desperately need to increase my logistics or something, then I will trade. I want to be superior in techs when I go to war. By Mid game I rarely trade.
Reply #6 Top
Its strange that you think the game is too easy when you turn OFF the tech trading; while I agree it is too easy, it is far far easier with tech trading turned on, because one can maintain an automatic tech lead and make stacks and stacks of free money - which one cant do without tech trading.


It really depends on your play style. I'm almost always the race doing the most research by a large margin, so turning off tech trading guarantees that I'll be the tech leader. This is not the case with tech trading turned on.
Reply #7 Top
"It really depends on your play style. I'm almost always the race doing the most research by a large margin, so turning off tech trading guarantees that I'll be the tech leader. This is not the case with tech trading turned on."

Exactly why i turn it off .That and the fact that the ai really seem to trade more with themselves than with you, even with a diplo lead.
Reply #8 Top
i will trade my own tech unscrupulously if i found out that the AI is currently researching that tech and has 1 week left to complete it. Regardless if it's a diplomatic tech, or weapon tech, or whatever. My reasoning is, hey, the AI is gonna get the tech anyway in the next round by himself, so I might as well squeeze some bc's outta him in the process