calmon calmon

Starting Race Problem still not solved in newest patch. Reseting Races makes some better then others

▼

Starting Race Problem still not solved in newest patch. Reseting Races makes some better then others

from GalCiv2 Forums
After pressing 'reset' button on the race ability screen you got full 10 points AND some special abilites. Here is the list:

Yor 10 ability points, 8% logistics, 25% miniaturization
Thalan 10 ablity points, 6% logistics, 10% miniaturization
Drengin 10 ablity points, 7% logistics, 25% morale
Iconian 10 ablity points, 7% logistics, 50% Research
Drath 10 ablity points, 6% logistics, 50% defence, 25% military production, 25% diplomacy, 50% espionage
Korx 10 ablity points, 6% logistics, 15% economics, 25% trade, 10% courage
Torian 10 ablity points, 6% logistics, 25% morale, 10% luck, 20% courage
Altarian 10 ablity points, 5% logistics, 30% luck, 30% creativity
Human 10 ablity points, 6% logistics
Arcean 10 ablity points, 7% logistics

Strange thing that some races got something and others not. Even if there are some invisible things which can't be found on the overview. for me it looks inhomogeneous.

Furthermore:
When allocating the arrangeable abilitypoints of the races some of them (these with special abilities like the drath +50% defence) lose their special ability bonuses complete.

For example drath: I click 'creative' for 1 ability point and go back to the race summery and the +50% defence bonus and the +50 spionage bonus is vansihed

For example Yor: I click 'creative' or something else and the +100% loyality bonus goes into nirvana. BUT very weird, the 25% miniaturization not!

The cruel thing is that you have to delete this custom files in windows explorer to regain the original races and bonuses. If not these bonuses are missed forever and some players may not even noticed them.

For me its still not clear that it should possible to add abilites to normal races but Brad uses the points in his testgames too so it seem to be ok. He used the human which doesn't have specials like some other races.

Plaese fix it.

12,702 views 29 replies
Reply #26 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I can't find anywhere on the forums where Stardock has addressed this question satisfactorily. I think this is one of those eternal mysteries which Stardock will glance over and decide, "Well, we don't think we want to worry about that in the patch, so we'll just ignore it and pretend we didn't read their comments. La-la-la...!"
Reply #27 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
(like miniaturization)


Right, here's to settle the Yor issue. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. They have (written into the AI) A negative factor in every relationship (isn't shown up, but you can quite easily notice it if you're looking for it) and that means that they tend to die. A lot. If you go as them and pick the war party, as has been stated, you lose your wonderful loyalty bonus, which is their biggest asset. These factors mean that the Yor tend to get wiped out fairly quickly (althogh never more quick than the Korx)

If you find it anywhere near gamebreaking, nerf it yourself. I for one want it left in the game, the negative diplomacy makes them weak enough as it is.
Fences - Organize your desktop icons today!
Reply #28 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
They have (written into the AI) A negative factor in every relationship (isn't shown up, but you can quite easily notice it if you're looking for it) and that means that they tend to die.


Who cares the AI? The problem here is that players can choose for example the Yor, reset the complete abilities to get 10 points and gain a new "custom" race with 8 logistic, 25% miniaturization and the full 10 points.

And even if there any 'internal' hadicap for players too nothing of them is shown to the players which is very intransparent!

Furthermore why do the +100 loayality vanishing just by allocating the remaining ability points in a normal Yor game?

Questions over questions and for me not one satisfactory reply from stardock.
Reply #29 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I've never lost my special abilities when I've changed governments. I play the Yor too, so it would be pretty obvious.

I have also had this happen to me a couple of times. And I play Yor. Irritating to discover that you have lost your +100 loyalty in the middle of a long game. Nowadays, I always check my abilities after having changed for example the government, so that they are correct.