The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Close Shut the Jaws... Of Oblivion!

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I think it's safe to say that The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion is one of the most widely anticipated games of 2006 -- one of the few MMORPGs of my favorite definition (Massively Multientity Offline RPG). I will add to this statement by saying that although I really enjoyed Morrowind, Oblivion is not one of my most anticipated games of 2006. So keep in mind while reading this "review" that I went into this game with fairly average expectations -- in short, I think I'm fairly unbiased in regards to the game. Something I can't really say about some games.

With all the necessary background information, I feel safe saying that Oblivion is one hell of a game. It's hard not to go into this game and be almost immediately captivated by the world that Bethesda has created. And that's probably the best way to describe the world in Oblivion: captivating. Despite its stale, generic, middle-age fantasy setting, Oblivion still manages to have enough depth to really reel in its players. This is, in part, due to the fact that Bethesda has gone absolutely crazy in populating the world with NPCs powered by SkynetRadiant AI (as Bethesda has coined it) which maintain their own unique daily schedules. It is also due to the extreme amount of detail which the developers have taken notice of in-game: the volumes upon volumes of readable books, a shop sign wavering to-and-fro as a result of an arrow fired at it, and even its own reservoir of unique flowers and plants which can be harvested and combined to create potions and the like. The game just feels alive.

And in this feeling of reality comes one of my biggest gripes about the game: with all the extensive attention paid to Oblivion's graphics... They're probably the most disappointing aspect of the game for me. While I play the game I just continually see cool things that beg to have a screenshot taken of them (which is good), but very rarely do I see a beautiful animation or uniquely-designed enemy or character (which is bad). The game's rendering engine seems custom tailored to create good screenshots but, like Everquest 2 the characters, enemies, and animations feel so stale and stilted. It's quite a shame, actually; seeing Oblivion-caliber realism combined with World of Warcraft animation quality and we'd have a sure-fire graphical winner. Don't get me wrong, you'd have to be blind to not realize the amount of beauty this game is capable of. I just feel that a lot of the graphical prowess is put to waste as far as fluid animation is concerned -- each individual action is well-done, but as a whole there is simply something off. It's part of the problem with trying to recreate Real Life on modern hardware: you may make a lot of overall progress, but the closer you get to reality, the easier it is for people to spot rough spots. That said, check out some of my favorite "Oh, that's purdy!" moments (this was before I had to reduce my overall visual quality -- sadface):



Shortly after the above screenshots were taken I was forced into downgrading the visual quality in an attempt to actually live through combat without sinking into a single-digit framerate. I was quite sad to have to do this as it marks a first for being required to lower image quality to maintain a 30+ framerate, but hey, my AMD64 3500+, 2gb DDR400 RAM, 256mb 6800GT rig had a nice run of being top dog for most of my gaming needs. In the end I got rid of the ridiculously lengthy viewing distance, dropped the HDR rendering (which especially made me a sadpanda), dropped shadows, and added bloom (in place of the HDR). One of the nice things about this change was that I could swap in bloom and 2x anti-aliasing in place of the HDR and still get a 10-15 overall framerate boost. I would really like to see this game on my rig with HDR and anti-aliasing but Bethesda must have realized that some things were not meant for the eyes of mortals. Which is a shame; it would've felt neat to spontaneously combust in a cloud of joy.

Speaking of joy, I'd like to spend a moment to relay the true reason that Oblivion surpasses Morrowind in every way: the combat. Bethesda must've imported a team of super-coder-monkeys to completely overhaul the system from the previous games because, this time around, the combat has a whole lot of weight to it. And I mean that quite literally. When I swing my sword at an enemy, it feels like it oughta hurt. When an enemy blocks my swing, my speakers emit a shrill clank while my character recoils back and prepares to take a big, unprotected blow from my adversary. The new ability to quickly and easily cast spells while still having a sword and shield (or two-handed weapon, if that's your thing) equipped makes playing a Battle Mage, of some sort, a truly fantastic experience. Enjoy some screenshots of combat.



Part of the reason why combat feels more enjoyable to me is the increased emphasis on proper projectile physics and the like. Shooting a bow is actually quite entertaining (more so than any other FPS bow I've ever tried) because when an arrow hits your target, the damn thing remains sticking out of him until you kill him and yank the arrow out. If you miss, the arrow either breaks (if you're shooting a stone wall at point blank -- not that I found this out the hard way or anything) or clatters around the ground. And when you kill an enemy with a particularly devastating blow their weapon and shield will go flying (as will their corpse) out of their hands. So if by some chance you found an enemy with an especially purdy, glowy weapon that is absolutely tearing you apart and you get him down to his final sliver of life, I'd recommend trying to avoid cliffs. Because, and I say this once again purely with conjecture due to the fact that I'd never do something this stupid or anything (cough, cough), if you're near a cliff and deliver a big death blow you might as well say good riddance to that beautiful sword as it goes careening down an insurmountable cliffside. Oh how I miss that pretty blue-glowing sword.

And while this coupling of complaint and praise doesn't really impact gameplay in any way, shape, or form, the physics are spectacular. I have taken to busting into people's dining rooms during dinner and running amok on their table and laughing maniacally as all their lovely meat, silverware, and plates go clattering to the ground. I then run out of the house hoisting my sword in the air and shouting my dinner-miscreant battle cry as I disappear into the fog. My complaint about these physics, which lies in a similar vein, is that there should be destructible objects in the game a la the Source Engine. There have been so many moments in the game where I thought it'd be cool to break through the glass of, say, a display case or to just go crazy and destroy every barrel in a town (how's that for "infamy," eh Bethesda?). This, honestly, was one of the most disappointing things for me going into the game. Though if this is how far I have to go to find a complaint I'd say that Oblivion is pretty well off.

Supposedly the game world in Oblivion is smaller than that of Morrowind's -- oh well, I say. Good riddance to endless spots of land with no discoverable content. Oblivion's countryside is dotted with far more little facets of the game to reward explorers, whether it be a bandit hideout, random encounters with NPCs, or surprisingly large dungeons (redundant in design as they may be) than Morrowind could've ever hoped for. And this more focused land size seems to have helped Bethesda constrict the ease with which the main story quests can be accomplished (the Guild Wars-esque "Fast Travel" is really handy too), which I am very thankful for.



I'm not too far into the main story quest yet -- I've played thirteen-fourteen hours of the game so far and I've really just been doing miscellaneous sidequests for the Fighter's Guild, Mage's Guild, and then competing in The Arena in a one-on-one battle to the death. I've also completed two of the game's sixteen "Planes of Oblivion" which are horrendously annoying to look at, but ever-so-difficult and enjoyable to play through (not to mention the really rewarding items that can be found within). The story in Oblivion seems far more focused and intriguing than I ever found Morrowind's to be too, so here's hoping that the game keeps it up as I get further into the game.

For now, this is about as long as my review of the game will get. If I feel any of my complaints are unwarranted, or if aspects of the game I had previously considered flukes persist to the point where they start to grate me in ways that make me cry myself to sleep at night, then I'll update this article with the appropriate information. And here's hoping there's a patch soon which can address the frequent crashes I'm getting at seemingly random points, which seems to be a nice big bug custom-tailored for Trent Polack. Lucky, lucky me.

Also, hearing Patrick Stewart say the following line made me all sorts of tingly.

close shut the jaws... of oblivion
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Reply #2 Top
Nice review. I've been debating getting this (to bring to FOUR the games I'm curently playing, and there is still yet a fifth I want to pick up - just shoot me now), and this has been another nail in my coffin... I mean reason to pick up the game.

Although the graphics requirements! YIKES!

I was going to wait a couple months to get my new rig (my current one isn't quite two years old), but now I'm thinking if I want to play this game, I'll need to do it sooner rather than later!
Reply #3 Top
Heh, I know what you mean with the number of games. Currently I'm playing Act of War, Command and Conquer Generals, a Rise of Nations' "Conquer the World" campaign, Red Orchestra and this. So many games, so little time.

And, yeah, the game's requirements are pretty steep, but some moments in the game are just so pretty that it's hard not to consider it worth all the trouble.
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I've liked the screenshots, and it is a big improvement over the dull brown of Morrowind. Guess its time to buy a nice fat rig to run the few fancy games like this one that I do play.
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Heh; good 'ol brown. The staple of Morrowind and Quake.

And though the screenshots of Oblivion look fantastic (and they do); the dungeons are still terribly repetitive. I think the general structure of every dungeon is pretty much the same and, for the most part, they all share the exact same texture set. The underground dungeons all look pretty good, so it's not a problem, but the Planes of Oblivion are neat for about twenty minutes and then the repeating orange/red combo with lava textures gets old. Real fast. There are sixteen of these things. :/

Personally, I'm looking forward to Hellgate: London more than I am any other game (including Oblivion) right now. Spore and Supreme Commander look fantastic as well... But Hellgate: London? Yesplzkthx.
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I get decent performance, have a single-core AMD 3500+ (~2.2ghz), 1500 megs of DDR RAM, and an ATI Radeon X800. The videocard probably makes the biggest difference. I do get lag in some places, but it defaulted my video settings to high and most places I run fine.

Oh it turned off 'tree canopy shadows' by default; I turned that on and it didn't hurt performance, plus it made the forests SO much better. Check and make sure it's on, because it's awesome. The video options menu can scroll down and show more options, which I wasn't aware of until recently.


I'm deeply deeply immersed in the game but don't have much to add to what Trent said. The combat is hugely improved compared to Morrowind, it's not just about swinging until the thing dies. The balance is improved, you no longer have to rush to the nearest Daedra ruin and get some uber armor right off the bat to survive some encounter which is very likely too hard for you.. now everything is set so, while you MIGHT be slaughtered horribly no matter if you're a spellslinger or a warrior, you DO have a chance of victory!

I disliked the auto-balancing in Daggerfall, but seeing the overall benefit of it and the fluidity of combat I like it in Oblivion. Compared to the mostly static encounters and loot in Morrowind, it's a huge improvement in consistency. Autobalancing does inject a certain futility into character advancement, but while it means opponents will always be just about your strength it also means you'll get better and better loot as you progress. It means every quest that involves combat is =still= a challenge but doable no matter when you come across it.

I get the crashes now and then too. Still, I would say this is the most un-buggy Elder Scrolls game so far.
Reply #7 Top
Well, of course. It's not an Elder Scrolls game without the bugs.

As generic as the setting in Oblivion is, I'm really digging the game. I'm finding myself increasingly put off by RPGs. Especially the Final Fantasy-esque games; I enjoy them, but I just no longer find myself interested in long, drawn out clones of games that I played growing up. This game, though, is really quite overwhelming in its awesomeness. It's just so easy to start up the game and completely lose yourself for a few hours before you realize you're missing some kind of key obligation in your life.

Also, let me say this to any players: join the Dark Brotherhood. The missions are an absolute blast to play through and you get some hella good items.
Reply #8 Top
Although the graphics requirements! YIKES!


Take the easy way out, Graphics Requirements: XBOX 360
Reply #9 Top
Oblivion, while not perfect (hey what game is?) is still a master piece any gamer should have. It's truly a wonderful experience, and man...I waste so much time enjoying the scenery. It's blissfull. 16 square miles is alot to cover. its about 4 times bigger than morrowind was and it's alot richer in live and vibrancy. Oh and there is no copy protection other than a simple cd check so back it up all you want.

You probably should not get the pc version if you do not have a nvidia 6 series or higher card and 1gig of ram along with a processor that is 2ghz or faster. Get the xbox version instead. Otherwise enjoy the pc version if you have the hardware.
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To get the XBox version would require that I own an XBox, and have a desire to own an XBox. Neither of which is true.

And before this degenerates into a PC vs. console flame war, just leave it at me not being interested in pretty much any of the XBox games. I can count on one hand the number of games that have come out on the XBox that I wanted to play, and after removing those that were also available on the PC, I'm not sure there is a list left. But that is just a personal taste issue, and leave it at that.

Well, that and I hate every console controller ever made. Mouse and Keyboard all the way!

Anyway.

I downloaded the sucker to my hard drive yesterday (yes I bought it, Direct to Drive, great stuff). Took a few hours to bring down almost 4.5 GB of game (even compressed). Even averaging 230 Kps it took a while. But I did some other stuff, had some supper, watched some tube, and played a game that wasn't too intensive on my CPU or HD, and all was good.

My machine is almost 2 years old, and wasn't exactly top of the line at the time (Athlon 2800, ATI R9600 w. 128 MB VRAM, 1 GB RAM, 240 GB of hard drive), but I haven't any complaints with the results. It did default to low graphics settings and wanted to run at only 640 x 480, but I pushed that up to 800 by 600 without issue. I do have to turn off everything in the background (suspend Virus scanner, block network traffic, etc.), but that isn't a big deal. I think I'll be good until I get around to buying and building my new rig.

It would be nice to push up the graphics settings some, but even so they aren't bad.

So far I've been pretty happy with it. It crashed on me when I hit TAB three times rapidly (go into stats - I don't want that - oh yes I do) but I had been playing for several hours at that point, so I took at as a sign to go to bed (plus I had just exited a shop, so HOPEFULLY it had just autosaved).

The dungeons are kinda drab. The sewers and the Sideways cave I crawled through did look a lot alike. Oh well.

I also almost died a couple times. Almost. Fortunately the game pauses when you go into your inventory, so I sucked back some potions and was back at it.

I've also had no problem with the combat. Although so far I've found little use for a bow (if I see someone at range, I'll wack them with Flare, and then smack them with my sword if they live to get close). So far I haven't found any call for blocking, but it seems you can carry a shield AND a torch, so that may enhance the utility (a bandit with a big hammer almost killed my ass, so blocking his hammer with a shield might have been nice). Moving around more when fighting that big slow hammer might have been good too.

So far I'm pleased. Probably get my monies worth out of it.

Its just that I don't have time to play all the games I have!

I'm going to have to take a couple weeks off work to catch up on my gaming!
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32hrs in, lvl 17, barely touched the story still... Doing missions for the various towns, the mages guild and the dark brotherhood. Probably going to try to join the fighter's guild too later. I'm basically just wandering the world, delving whatever caves or ruins I come across. Found some nice loot so far doing it and a LOT of money. With an estimated 200hrs of gameplay, I've got a good number of weeks ahead of enjoyment ahead of me.

This has definitely been one of the better values I've gotten in a while from a game. And with all the mods that are sure to come out, and hopeful expansions, I'll be enjoying Oblivion for quite a long time to come
Reply #12 Top
200hrs of game play is alot...most people just don't realize just how much it is.(baulders gate2 and it's expansion equaled about 200hours if you were meticulous. Most people will probably never do or see everything. Also this number doesn't take into account all the free form sandbox stuff you can do in the game. Nor does it take account of the alternate paths in quests. so like morrowind or Deus Ex, this game will be played over and over until the next version comes out. Very good value.

The Pc version is the best as you can get mods for it. People made tons of great mods for morrowind, and Oblivion will be no exception. In fact people have already released a number of great game play tweaking mods that really improve the game ALOT. This thing is only going to get better.

Oh, and this game is sooo freaking huge it took a good 15 min on horse back to get from just the blades monestary to cloudtop (a breathtakenly beautiful ride). So it would probably take about an hour to get from one corner of the map to another or more. The Fast travel feature is great when you are short on time.
Reply #13 Top
Fast Travel is also handy once you've gone over a particular area a couple times and don't feel like seeing the sites any more.

In the arena last night - just as a level 2 dweeb - I had a really great fight ()died once) and the second time barely came out alive. Definitely not just stand there and slash until the guy dies. Had to move around, use my shield, heal myself, etc.

Yep. Definitely an interesting ride.

Just wish it wouldn't crash every now and then (good thing it saves often, although most of my crashes were WHILE autosaving - fortunately it keeps a backup of the last autosave).
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I've been fortunate with the crashes. Only get them once in awhile. Usually when closing the program or moving between zones (rarely crashes but does sometimes while loading a zone). Bethseda is working on a patch but they don't have an eta just yet. (I've noticed that your system must be defraged well in order for the game to function properly, very sensitive to file fragmentation).

Try these mods with your game:

combat behavior
natural wilderness
hunters mod
wilderness creatures
tom servo's rare items
steel hurts

This mods working together make for an AWSOME game. Tessource.net ? has all of these and more.

the arena is cool, wait till you have to take on the 3 argonian prisoners...never realized just how cool hand to hand was until they started smacking me around the arena....very intense fight.
Reply #15 Top
Hand-to-hand combat seems surprisingly strong (at least, when I face enemies that use it). They get a lot more staggering hits, from what I've seen. And, yeah, the Arena was amazing. The final battle is kinda sad though.
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hmm - I've been playing Oblivion quite a bit now - got a couple of characters up to level 10 - (though I've done about 4 char's so far - trying to find the right balance of skills for the way I want to play + testing some mods etc.). I've yet to test a magic user yet though - thats my next job...

(note the following is just a quick rundown of my initial impressions of the game - so it's very subjective ):

Good points:

The gameworld is very nice, and apart from the odd chest floating in mid-air etc. and the limited types of dungeons - the world works well.

The thief-style gameplay works well too - the sneaking system is pretty good - and the lock-picking stuff is just about right - not too tricky - but will get you if you don't concentrate...

The missions and story seems pretty good and solid - and the interactions with the characters seems pretty good too.

Bad points:

The way the stat and levelling system works in this game, pretty much means levelling skills and statistics 'on rails'. The biggest downside to thism is that the user interaction is actually not that great, and it emphasises repetitive actions to increase the right skills and stats... Also - it emphasises extreme specialistion to get the most out of it too - since you can only increase a certain amount of primary skills per character level. Because of this - although the user still has some input into the characters development - there's not a great amount of variety involved, and it again suffers from the 'illlusion' of any real depth. (It's no-where near as bad as World Of Warcraft in this regard, which took this to the extreme - but it's heading in that direction) - which leads me to:

The melee combat in this game, although great at first, soon becomes fairly repetitve, mainly because the options involved in ti are very limited - mainly attack or block while moving - maybe casting a healing spell or something, depending on your character. If the attacks or defensive systems had more options, aswell as the small additions as you gain 'ranks' like you get atm, then I think it would help. I've done a few dungeons so far - and I'm getting bored of melee combat already... (Also tried the random enemies mod - but found that just as repetitive in melee).

I think my main problem is that the game I'm looking for simply dosen't seem to exist - and it dosen't look like it';s going to get made any time soon either... :-/
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grr - it said it timed out - but posted anyway - nvm... (edit/delete dupe)
Reply #18 Top

combat behavior
natural wilderness
hunters mod
wilderness creatures
tom servo's rare items
steel hurts


I'll have to look into some of those. I've been getting a few mods, but haven't looked at some of these yet.

For the most part the only time it crashed on me was autosaving. Rarely when transiting areas.

I haven't been able to play since last Tuesday unfortunately. I accidentally killed one of my DIMMs (long story, involves stupidity) and the game wasn't very happy being relegated to only 512 GB of RAM.

Fortunately my new machine (I was already in the process of getting it when I fried the DIMM) may be ready for me today, and it is one fat beast, so I should be able to run Oblivion with all the bells and whistles!

BWA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Ahem.

Sorry about that.
Reply #19 Top
512GB!!! :O (Sry - I know it's a typo - but it's still funny ).
Reply #20 Top
Oops.

Heh. I wish my computer had 512 GB.

What is scary, give it a few years, they probably will!

I was thinking about that yesterday. My current CPU has more Register memory than my first computer had RAM (heck, they have for a long time). My last video card had more RAM than my first hard drive. And my new video card has as much RAM as my (reduced) old computer!
Reply #21 Top
It took me a while to see some of the games flaws.

- Compared to Morrowind the setting is HORRIBLY generic and dull. I' agree with people who say that fantasy RPGs are really starting to lose their charm.

- The game is so easy it's untrue. In every single quest you are told exactly what to do. Just head towards the green arrow and hack until you see something to talk to. It's mindnumbing at times.

- The physics really isn't a part of the gameplay at all. It's just eyecandy. Telekinesis is pretty useless. Where's my Jedi style spell to throw people across the room?

- Come to think of it the whole magic system is still horribly flawed. Spells like Sacntuary, Levitate and Slow Fall were plain ripped out of the game and no new spells were added. The spells effects are really dull. You cast the same spells at level 30 as you do at level 5, just with bigger numbers.

- The dungeons are rather dull as well. Traps are few, and you can't disable them with skills. There's nothing to dungeons except killing things and opening locks. And when you're killing things, you're just fighting the same monster over and over again. There's no variation in difficulty, no fighting multiple monsters at once (unless you're overlapping two spawn points) outside of the main quest scenarios.

- The combat isn't really fun after a while. You just fall into a pattern of block swing, rince and repeat. You never feel like your characters abilities are coming into play. Magic isn't really necessarry, even for a mage. Magic and combat pretty much fulfill the exact same purpose (touch=sword, target=bow) since magic now regenerates in real time, so there's no need to conserve magicka and therefore no fundamental difference between the two.

- There was little to no attempt to incoorporate actual role playing or character based decision making into the game. In this sense, it's more action game than RPG.

- The way the game plays the same every time. Enchant is no longer a skill and both that and spellmaking are reserved for characters who go through the mages guild. By the time I'd gone to every town in the game in order to do that, I'd reached the latter levels anyway. Meh. You can't be a decent spellcaster without doing the whole Generic Mage's Guild thing (could they have created guilds that were any blander?). Similarly you can't be a thief at all without joining the theives guild.
Reply #22 Top
Oblivion is a great game, but unfortunately short in comparison to morrowind, also morrowing has a more open ended kind of tie in with the main story but still oblivion is one hell of a game and considering it has one of the best graphics engines on the planet it seems pretty well optimised! In short you could spend your money on alot worse. Just to adc the people who bring up the flaws are correct to do so and in what they say but there are good mods out there which sort the UI, theres also aq VERY buggy multiplayer piece of software made from a comp science guy that allows 2 players but it hasnt really took of because he i9s missing stuff of his support page and needs to update

You never feel like your characters abilities are coming into play. Magic isn't really necessarry, even for a mage. Magic and combat pretty much fulfill the exact same purpose


I agree with this in a small way but I like a game where how good you get at something is based on how much you use/practice it so yes a mage can become good at combat/magic and many other things, I identify with what you are saying though but I find a g ame without stupid skilling restrictions very refreshing, also theres mods to make the mobs and animals alot tougher with much better AI

The way the game plays the same every time. Enchant is no longer a skill and both that and spellmaking are reserved for characters who go through the mages guild. By the time I'd gone to every town in the game in order to do that, I'd reached the latter levels anyway. Meh. You can't be a decent spellcaster without doing the whole Generic Mage's Guild thing (could they have created guilds that were any blander?). Similarly you can't be a thief at all without joining the theives guild.


I enjoyed having to go through all the guilds and interact with the NPCs had they not did this the game would be a pure grind fest and ive had my fill off those. Just to add I am not trying to flame you just sharing how I found the game and I do at the same time agree with you that some aspects can be bland and actually apart from graphics morrowind has a more immersive,massive and open ended game
Reply #23 Top
I finished the game but not the expansions yet, but it's a great game because of the graphics and the RPG systme which is unlike any other so far. That is why it is very unique in it's genre, now to say that morrowind is better than oblivion is just nonesense.
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The Oblivion mod community has finally reached a state of sufficient maturity to make the game really, really good. I highly recommend Francesco's mod, or for the more daring the FCOM beta, to anyone who feels the game is too easy, lacks realism, or who just doesn't like the level and loot scaling as it currently exists. The principle strength of Elder Scroll games is their modability, which is why one should never buy one on a console. You're paying full price for 1/10th of a game that way.
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now to say that morrowind is better than oblivion is just nonesense.


To state that as a fact is "just nonsense". Opinions vary and I poured a hell of a lot more hours into Morrowind before losing interest than Oblivion. Just felt like parts of the game were to controlled and not truly freeform enough compared to it's predecessor.

Which leads me to thanking Vinraith for reminding me of a part of the game I had forgotten about. I'll have to check out the mods you mentioned and see what others are out there.