I'm so very late to this debate, and as i understand it many have left the forums, but i'm going to address a few things.
I did not read all this, and so much of what i say will be a generalization, and being that as it will be, i'm sure to paint some folks with the wrong brush, but i suspect i won't be far off, and in any case, my opinions are exactly that.
The ToE, regardless of what you want to believe did not know what benefits changing AIPersonality would bring, since we never tried a full game with it altered. ARC's were first used to construct a unique race. SB and i were messing with what we could change after he learned that the game would not flag certain changes. He and i then pushed the limits to see what the game would and would not flag. I, in the race for more score pushed harder and harder and it was SB, who at the time was my morality conscience, for lack of a better description, would council me as to what was morally usable and not.
We decided that if it couldn't be changed in the confines of the game UI, then it was off the table, so no further testing was done. Did we know you could alter AIPersonality, yes.
Did we, no. Ask SB if you don't believe me. Other than the choices in game it was left untouched since we felt that that direct editing what cant be changed in game, was not be design nor what Brad and Cari intended for us to mod.
Also, ARC's at this time were for use as your playable character, not for AI, so again the need for using AIPersonality was never there.
LOL, i was near sure form what comments of yours i read that Mumble had killed your dog or something. Can i ask, are you more upset that mumble spied on you and ousted a well used kzinti technique, or upset that since his actions and the kzin have been brought to the attention of SD, the technique is no longer available to you?
I suspect the latter.
Who are you? Certainly no one qualified to be in the debate from what i can tell, other than being qualified via your kzin membership. I'm not sure how you factor into this.
A voice of reason as always...glad to see you are still picking this game apart.
Well i think in hindsight you would have never have made this thread, in fact i was surprised to see you as the OP. As much as you have been the bane of my GC2 existence, i have always been able to respect you and your actions, mostly. Not this time though...The Kzin tried on many occasions to spy into areas on ToE that they were not allowed into. I have had repeated requests over the years for access, and there was one blatant spy who admitted so much even, yet here he is and you denouncing Mumble for the same things you guys tried/did for years. Were these attempts as brutal as what Mumble did you to you, i guess not. But you guys tried no less...kettle's and black pots......
Doesn't seem right to publicly oust Mumble for the same actions that your members have themselves attempted does it?
Another point KP. Purge's diplo technique. I don't recall you ever being in any of those discussion, so how would you know what went on and what didn't. But i recall you calling your version of that game the great galactic swindle..how is that any different to what we coined the Mumbler.
You don't really think he called it that himself do you. It was me and DA if i recall correctly that coined that phrase..and mumbles contributions to it warranted the credit i assure you.
It seems there are many things on the MV that due credit is not given for..but i bet if i asked around most would say "the kzin thought of that"....Can't fault a great propaganda machine i guess.
You got belted from pillar to post for calling attention to an exploit that was being so overused that i agree, it was a cheat. Those using it knew it, thats why all this hubub, and why this thread exist's in the first place.
Nevertheless, i fell you you did the right thing, but for all the wrong results. The sad thing is this will change nothing..the cheat will continue to be used, since there is no way of checking for it, and the loudest protesters will continue to flame away, protesting your actions all the while raping the MV with inflated scores.
Using AIPersonality in game is a cheat. Silverbeacher and i agreed upon this when we we first discovered ARC's. There is even a thread about here discussing this that Cari weighed in on where she stated something to the effect of "only changes allowed from within the game UI would be accepted" She went on to say that she frowned upon those even, but if it could be done in game then there was little she could do. Direct XML editing was and is an exploit/cheat. We knew that 3 or 4 years ago. Something to which i'm pretty sure you agreed to KP.
I guess it only become acceptable when uber scores were possible by those in the know......
In any case....scoring for scoring sakes ruined this game. Mumble did what he did...such is life...but it seems to me that only those with the most to lose are yelling the loudest.
I challenge you all to this. Reset all your your top characters...any character that has ever used an ARC, wipe it.
Now play out a suicidal game with 9 AI changing nothing. Use the vanilla settings for yourself and the AI....
Ok...you did that..
Was it fun?
End of debate/